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Brian Smith
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 Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:30 pm Post subject: Questions In 70-210 Exam? |
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Hi,
I've been revising for my 70-210 exam, and have been looking at sites such
as www.2000trainers.com which has example questions on it. One of the
example questions is along the lines of:
"You are implimenting AD in your company, but don't have the budget to
upgrade all machines to win2000 so have to install Directory Services Client
on NT4 machines"
My question is, is this type of question likely to come up in the 70-210
exam? It has nothing to do with Win2000, more to do with the AD exam 70-217.
Another example question is about running Win2000 server and being
interested in running DFS on it and how best to accomplish it when running
Win98 & Win2000 clients. All the answers comment on root replicas, and DFS
trees and roots.
Is this likely to come up? It seems more a 70-215/70-217 question again.
If these questions are going to crop up in the 70-210 exam, I'm going to
have to revise a lot more for it, as none of the revision books I have (Mike
Meyers Certification Passport - Osborne) mention anything about DSC or DFS.
Cheers
Brian |
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Brian Smith
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: Questions In 70-210 Exam? |
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| Quote: | yes it does. Windows 2000 (pro I might add since this is about the 210
exam. don't forget the AD runs on 2000 as well just the server version)
in a networked enviorment plays a part in the exam (look on the MS
website at http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-210.asp#SKILLS).
Part of the process is also determining when you can install win2kpro and
what you need to do when you can't.
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I know the 70-210 expects you to understand that it can be part of an active
directory, the books I've read cover AD, and how group policies work, DNS,
DHCP, RIS, etc, and networking such as TCP/IP, protocol binding, VPN
encryption and everything, infact I'd say the books cover networking in one
aspect or another, more than any other topic, whether its from protocols, to
share permissions to troubleshooting NICs. However none of the books (have
read 3 now) mention DFS or DSC at all.
I guess I can see how DFS might be mentioned in an exam question, (although
not in one as complex as the one on www.2000trainers.com) but DSC isn't need
on win2k pro, as its designed to allow users to run AD on Win9x/NT4, win2k
can do it on its own.
Brian |
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Neil
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: Questions In 70-210 Exam? |
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"Brian Smith" <v00d002001@hotmail.com> wrote in news:1MwIc.390$cz3.176
@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net:
| Quote: | My question is, is this type of question likely to come up in the 70-
210
exam? It has nothing to do with Win2000
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yes it does. Windows 2000 (pro I might add since this is about the 210
exam. don't forget the AD runs on 2000 as well just the server version)
in a networked enviorment plays a part in the exam (look on the MS
website at http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-210.asp#SKILLS).
Part of the process is also determining when you can install win2kpro and
what you need to do when you can't.
--
Neil MCNGP #30
"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?" |
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Brian Smith
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: Questions In 70-210 Exam? |
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Also meant to say in the above:
Looking at the topics in the link you provided
(http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-210.asp#SKILLS) The "Skills
measured by exam 70-210" table doesn't say anthing about DCS/DFS. I've
covered everything mentioned there, as long as thats what's only asked in
the exam I should be ok! |
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Neil
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 2:31 pm Post subject: Re: Questions In 70-210 Exam? |
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"Brian Smith" <v00d002001@hotmail.com> wrote in news:4dxIc.409$cz3.249
@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net:
| Quote: | Also meant to say in the above:
Looking at the topics in the link you provided
(http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-210.asp#SKILLS) The "Skills
measured by exam 70-210" table doesn't say anthing about DCS/DFS. I've
covered everything mentioned there, as long as thats what's only asked
in
the exam I should be ok!
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while this is true, it does mention "Upgrade from a previous version of
Windows to Windows 2000 Professional." and "Connect to shared resources
on a Microsoft network." both of which could lead into this type of
question. You should know the limitations that are overcome by the DSC.
Might come up and might not. I would have a look at:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/server/evaluation/news/bulletins/ade
xtension.asp or if it wrapshttp://tinyurl.com/gaxi
and at least know where the client would be a benefit (which doesn't
directly tie to DFS but DFS Fault Tollerance is one area the client is
required in for 9x/NT Clients)
Know everything and you wont be disappointed. my 2¢
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Neil MCNGP #30
"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?" |
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RH
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 6:30 pm Post subject: Re: Questions In 70-210 Exam? |
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Since when did they revise W2K Pro to be able to run AD
as you suggest in your post above? It has to be the
server OS in order to run AD.
| Quote: | -----Original Message-----
"Brian Smith" <v00d002001@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:4dxIc.409$cz3.249
@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net:
Also meant to say in the above:
Looking at the topics in the link you provided
(http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-
210.asp#SKILLS) The "Skills
measured by exam 70-210" table doesn't say anthing
about DCS/DFS. I've
covered everything mentioned there, as long as thats
what's only asked
in
the exam I should be ok!
while this is true, it does mention "Upgrade from a
previous version of
Windows to Windows 2000 Professional." and "Connect to
shared resources
on a Microsoft network." both of which could lead into
this type of
question. You should know the limitations that are
overcome by the DSC.
Might come up and might not. I would have a look at:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/server/evaluation/ne
ws/bulletins/ade
xtension.asp or if it wrapshttp://tinyurl.com/gaxi
and at least know where the client would be a benefit
(which doesn't
directly tie to DFS but DFS Fault Tollerance is one area
the client is
required in for 9x/NT Clients)
Know everything and you wont be disappointed. my 2¢
--
Neil MCNGP #30
"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"
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Neil
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 8:30 pm Post subject: Re: Questions In 70-210 Exam? |
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"RH" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in news:2b28001c4683a
$085d7170$a501280a@phx.gbl:
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Since when did they revise W2K Pro to be able to run AD
as you suggest in your post above? It has to be the
server OS in order to run AD.
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WHAT IN THE NAME OF A HOLY HANDGRENADE BROUGHT YOU TO THIS?
no win2kpor does not run AD. I did NOT suggest that it could! I did
suggest that the OP should recognise the need for a Directory Services
Client in given situations. going back and looking.......NO STILL DON'T
SEE WHERE I SAID win2kpro WAS AD ENABLED!
cripes that was a leap...
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Neil MCNGP #30
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Neil
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: Questions In 70-210 Exam? |
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"Brian Smith" <v00d002001@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:0wCIc.312$KA2.243@newsfe5-gui.ntli.net:
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Yeah I have the Mike Meyers Certification Passport book for 70-215 as
well, which I was going to start on after passing 70-210, however it
looks like I might have to read it first. I also have the same book
for xp pro 70-270, I was hoping to do win2k pro/xp pro and win2k
server close together, because of the overlap between each.
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Kelley's plan is good but 210/270 is redundant. 210-215 would be god to
do in tandem due to the overlap (but they are significantly different
items) but 270 would be a lot of the same for no reason. IMHO
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Neil MCNGP #30
"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?" |
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Brian Smith
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: Questions In 70-210 Exam? |
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"catwalker63" <_catwalker63_@hotmamamail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | You could try looking at the books for server. Some overlap is to be
expected.
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aka catwalker
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Yeah I have the Mike Meyers Certification Passport book for 70-215 as well,
which I was going to start on after passing 70-210, however it looks like I
might have to read it first. I also have the same book for xp pro 70-270, I
was hoping to do win2k pro/xp pro and win2k server close together, because
of the overlap between each. |
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Brian Smith
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: Questions In 70-210 Exam? |
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| Quote: | WHAT IN THE NAME OF A HOLY HANDGRENADE BROUGHT YOU TO THIS?
no win2kpor does not run AD. I did NOT suggest that it could! I did
suggest that the OP should recognise the need for a Directory Services
Client in given situations. going back and looking.......NO STILL DON'T
SEE WHERE I SAID win2kpro WAS AD ENABLED!
cripes that was a leap...
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Neil MCNGP #30
"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"
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Yeah I was wondering what he was going on about! |
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Neil
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: Questions In 70-210 Exam? |
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"Brian Smith" <v00d002001@hotmail.com> wrote in news:25CIc.302$KA2.298
@newsfe5-gui.ntli.net:
| Quote: | I've already read 100s books, and visited 100s websites, watched a set of
CDs, feel like my head is going to explode!
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wait for the "ka-boom" and you're ready for the exam...
;)
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Neil MCNGP #30
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catwalker63
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: Questions In 70-210 Exam? |
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You could try looking at the books for server. Some overlap is to be
expected.
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Kelley
aka catwalker
IT Professional, MCP
"Brian Smith" <v00d002001@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:25CIc.302$KA2.298@newsfe5-gui.ntli.net...
| Quote: | while this is true, it does mention "Upgrade from a previous version of
Windows to Windows 2000 Professional." and "Connect to shared resources
on a Microsoft network." both of which could lead into this type of
question. You should know the limitations that are overcome by the DSC.
Might come up and might not. I would have a look at:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/server/evaluation/news/bulletins/ade
xtension.asp or if it wrapshttp://tinyurl.com/gaxi
and at least know where the client would be a benefit (which doesn't
directly tie to DFS but DFS Fault Tollerance is one area the client is
required in for 9x/NT Clients)
Know everything and you wont be disappointed. my 2¢
--
Neil MCNGP #30
"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"
I can see what your saying, I will try to cram somemore text books in to
my
little brain!
I've already read 100s books, and visited 100s websites, watched a set of
CDs, feel like my head is going to explode! I'm sure everytime I learn
something new, I forget something old. ;-)
Brian
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Brian Smith
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: Questions In 70-210 Exam? |
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| Quote: | while this is true, it does mention "Upgrade from a previous version of
Windows to Windows 2000 Professional." and "Connect to shared resources
on a Microsoft network." both of which could lead into this type of
question. You should know the limitations that are overcome by the DSC.
Might come up and might not. I would have a look at:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/server/evaluation/news/bulletins/ade
xtension.asp or if it wrapshttp://tinyurl.com/gaxi
and at least know where the client would be a benefit (which doesn't
directly tie to DFS but DFS Fault Tollerance is one area the client is
required in for 9x/NT Clients)
Know everything and you wont be disappointed. my 2¢
--
Neil MCNGP #30
"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"
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I can see what your saying, I will try to cram somemore text books in to my
little brain!
I've already read 100s books, and visited 100s websites, watched a set of
CDs, feel like my head is going to explode! I'm sure everytime I learn
something new, I forget something old. ;-)
Brian |
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Brian Smith
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:30 pm Post subject: Re: Questions In 70-210 Exam? |
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| Quote: | Kelley's plan is good but 210/270 is redundant. 210-215 would be god to
do in tandem due to the overlap (but they are significantly different
items) but 270 would be a lot of the same for no reason. IMHO
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Neil MCNGP #30
"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"
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But wouldn't it look better on a cv to be an MCP in win xp as well? Some
companies may be looking for someone to support xp & 2k.
As xp & 2k have a fair bit of overlap, I thought it might be worth taking
the exam as well, as it wouldn't involve much more revision that what I've
already done. Just a kinda topup type thing. |
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JaR
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:30 pm Post subject: Re: Questions In 70-210 Exam? |
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Brian Smith wrote:
| Quote: | Kelley's plan is good but 210/270 is redundant. 210-215 would be god to
do in tandem due to the overlap (but they are significantly different
items) but 270 would be a lot of the same for no reason. IMHO
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Neil MCNGP #30
"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"
But wouldn't it look better on a cv to be an MCP in win xp as well? Some
companies may be looking for someone to support xp & 2k.
As xp & 2k have a fair bit of overlap, I thought it might be worth taking
the exam as well, as it wouldn't involve much more revision that what I've
already done. Just a kinda topup type thing.
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I don't know how many HR departments even know the difference. But as
long as you've got the $125 to spend, I'm sure MS will applaud your efforts.
JaR |
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