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Ben Blackmore
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 Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 12:30 pm Post subject: RIS & Laptops? |
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Whats microsofts official line on RIS support for laptops? In everything
I've read, including all the mcse study guides, its always says it needs to
be a pxe compliant PCI NIC, and it won't work with laptops!
"RIS Clients Must Have Particular PCI Network Cards, Laptops Need Not Apply
As it only supports PCI cards, laptops which in general use PC Card or
Cardbus network cards can't be helped by RIS"
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000pro/deploy/depopt/ris.mspx
Has this now changed? We've just got in a load of new HP nx4000 and they do
pxe boot, and I'm currently installing win2k on them all! Is this because
the network card is built in, and is so considered a PCI NIC?
If a question should come up in an exam saying "you have a laptop computer
and want to use RIS to install win2k, is this possible - yes/no" which would
be correct?
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Neil
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| Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: RIS & Laptops? |
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"Ben Blackmore" <bjblackmore@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in
news:ugtAkDlbEHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl:
| Quote: | We've just got in a load of new HP nx4000 and they do
pxe boot, and I'm currently installing win2k on them all! Is this
because the network card is built in, and is so considered a PCI NIC?
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no it is because RIS requires PXE. there are plenty of PCI NICs that did
not support RIS (either thru PXE of the rbfg).
| Quote: | If a question should come up in an exam saying "you have a laptop
computer and want to use RIS to install win2k, is this possible -
yes/no" which would be correct?
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I would go with what the documentation for a product says for the exam
every single time. MS also said that the IIS4 SMTP service had to be
installed on an NTFS partition. I have installed it on FAT for sh!ts and
giggles, but I don't think that'd be something I'd do in real life.
(well, I don't think I'd use the IIS4 SMTP service for anything in real
life. there are better SMTP services out there...)
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billyw
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| Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: RIS & Laptops? |
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boy u know how to have a laugh
"Neil" <neilmcse@nospamforyou.com> wrote in message
news:Xns952C597C985Bneilmcsehotmailcom@207.46.248.16...
| Quote: | "Ben Blackmore" <bjblackmore@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in
news:ugtAkDlbEHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl:
We've just got in a load of new HP nx4000 and they do
pxe boot, and I'm currently installing win2k on them all! Is this
because the network card is built in, and is so considered a PCI NIC?
no it is because RIS requires PXE. there are plenty of PCI NICs that did
not support RIS (either thru PXE of the rbfg).
If a question should come up in an exam saying "you have a laptop
computer and want to use RIS to install win2k, is this possible -
yes/no" which would be correct?
I would go with what the documentation for a product says for the exam
every single time. MS also said that the IIS4 SMTP service had to be
installed on an NTFS partition. I have installed it on FAT for sh!ts and
giggles, but I don't think that'd be something I'd do in real life.
(well, I don't think I'd use the IIS4 SMTP service for anything in real
life. there are better SMTP services out there...)
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Neil MCNGP #30
Minutus cantorum, minutus balorum, minutus carborata descendum pantorum. |
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Neil
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| Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: RIS & Laptops? |
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FrisbeeŽ <billLASTINIT@dasi-software.com> wrote in
news:#Z9gsEmbEHA.3096@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl:
| Quote: | billyw wrote:
here's a bit of idle entertainment..
did you know... not a lot of people know this... all my customer's
backups run at 21:12
A palidromic time, eh? Is that so that the backup will immediately
verify itself?
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no need to rush into why they are set for 2112
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Neil MCNGP #30
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billyw
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| Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: RIS & Laptops? |
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no it is far sadder than that...
and no there aren't any clients called by-tor or the snowdog..
but in the end i'm only a working man
see what i did there eh, eh
"FrisbeeŽ" <billLASTINIT@dasi-software.com> wrote in message
news:%23Z9gsEmbEHA.3096@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | billyw wrote:
here's a bit of idle entertainment..
did you know... not a lot of people know this... all my customer's
backups run at 21:12
A palidromic time, eh? Is that so that the backup will immediately verify
itself?
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Fris "Or immediately restore itself" beeŽ, MCNGP #13
The MCNGP Team - We're here to help!
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Jtyc
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| Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: RIS & Laptops? |
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| Quote: | here's a bit of idle entertainment..
did you know... not a lot of people know this... all my customer's backups
run at 21:12
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Did you also setup the admin passwords as "password"?
That's what I do... in case I forget them. |
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TechGeekPro
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| Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: RIS & Laptops? |
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On Jul 20, 2004 "Ben Blackmore" blathered:
| Quote: | http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000pro/deploy/depopt
/ris.mspx
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About the Author
Mark Minasi, MCSE, is recognized as one of the world's best explainers of
Windows NT. He teaches Windows NT classes in fifteen countries and is a
much sought-after speaker at Windows NT conferences, regularly keynoting
and speaking at the NT Wizards and NT Professionals conferences. He also
writes three popular columns in Windows NT Magazine, as well as "Eye on the
Enterprise" in Japan's Nikkei NT magazine. His firm, MR&D, has taught tens
of thousands of people to design and run Windows NT networks. Among his
eight other Sybex books are Mastering TCP/IP for NT
Serverhttp://www1.fatbrain.com/asp/bookinfo/bookinfo.asp?theisbn=0782121233
&p=technet&s=29736"http://www1.fatbrain.com/asp/bookinfo/bookinfo.asp?
theisbn=0782126065&p=technet&s=29736">
http://www1.fatbrain.com/asp/bookinfo/bookinfo.asp?theisbn=0782126065 which
has sold a million copies and been translated into twelve languages.
1999 Sybex Inc. All Rights Reserved.
We at Microsoft Corporation hope that the information in this work is
valuable to you. Your use of the information contained in this work,
however, is at your sole risk. All information in this work is provided "as
-is", without any warranty, whether express or implied, of its accuracy,
completeness, fitness for a particular purpose, title or non-infringement,
and none of the third-party products or information mentioned in the work
are authored, recommended, supported or guaranteed by Microsoft
Corporation. Microsoft Corporation shall not be liable for any damages you
may sustain by using this information, whether direct, indirect, special,
incidental or consequential, even if it has been advised of the possibility
of such damages. All prices for products mentioned in this document are
subject to change without notice.
--
TechGeekPro
MCNGP #36, MCSA, A+, Net+, i-Net+
"Not only am I certified, I'm certifiable!" |
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Neil
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| Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 2:31 pm Post subject: Re: RIS & Laptops? |
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"billyw" <b@brainless.net> wrote in news:es2xI0lbEHA.1656
@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl:
| Quote: | boy u know how to have a laugh
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only becuase I was remarkably bored...now I have this bunch to entertain
me.
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Neil MCNGP #30
Minutus cantorum, minutus balorum, minutus carborata descendum pantorum. |
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billyw
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| Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 2:31 pm Post subject: Re: RIS & Laptops? |
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here's a bit of idle entertainment..
did you know... not a lot of people know this... all my customer's backups
run at 21:12
"Neil" <neilmcse@nospamforyou.com> wrote in message
news:Xns952C628B33E9Bneilmcsehotmailcom@207.46.248.16...
| Quote: | "billyw" <b@brainless.net> wrote in news:es2xI0lbEHA.1656
@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl:
boy u know how to have a laugh
only becuase I was remarkably bored...now I have this bunch to entertain
me.
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Neil MCNGP #30
Minutus cantorum, minutus balorum, minutus carborata descendum pantorum. |
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FrisbeeŽ
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| Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 2:31 pm Post subject: Re: RIS & Laptops? |
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billyw wrote:
| Quote: | here's a bit of idle entertainment..
did you know... not a lot of people know this... all my customer's
backups run at 21:12
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A palidromic time, eh? Is that so that the backup will immediately verify
itself?
--
Fris "Or immediately restore itself" beeŽ, MCNGP #13
The MCNGP Team - We're here to help!
http://www.mcngp.tk
Certaholics
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Neil
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| Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 2:31 pm Post subject: Re: RIS & Laptops? |
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"billyw" <b@brainless.net> wrote in news:uqMgCAmbEHA.3016
@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl:
nice...
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Neil MCNGP #30
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billyw
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| Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 3:30 pm Post subject: Re: RIS & Laptops? |
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no no no..
i always just go with admin or 1234
otherwise everyone might get locked out...
see thinking ahead
"Jtyc" <jtyc_mcngp@spamblockerbitch!@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:O3xo7QmbEHA.368@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | here's a bit of idle entertainment..
did you know... not a lot of people know this... all my customer's
backups
run at 21:12
Did you also setup the admin passwords as "password"?
That's what I do... in case I forget them.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 3:30 pm Post subject: Re: RIS & Laptops? |
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you talk 2 much
/deploy/depopt
| Quote: | /ris.mspx
About the Author
Mark Minasi, MCSE, is recognized as one of the world's
best explainers of
Windows NT. He teaches Windows NT classes in fifteen
countries and is a
much sought-after speaker at Windows NT conferences,
regularly keynoting
and speaking at the NT Wizards and NT Professionals
conferences. He also
writes three popular columns in Windows NT Magazine, as
well as "Eye on the
Enterprise" in Japan's Nikkei NT magazine. His firm,
MR&D, has taught tens
of thousands of people to design and run Windows NT
networks. Among his
eight other Sybex books are Mastering TCP/IP for NT
Serverhttp://www1.fatbrain.com/asp/bookinfo/bookinfo.asp?
theisbn=0782121233
&p=technet&s=29736"http://www1.fatbrain.com/asp/bookinfo/b
ookinfo.asp?
theisbn=0782126065&p=technet&s=29736"
http://www1.fatbrain.com/asp/bookinfo/bookinfo.asp?
theisbn=0782126065 which
has sold a million copies and been translated into twelve
languages.
1999 Sybex Inc. All Rights Reserved.
We at Microsoft Corporation hope that the information in
this work is
valuable to you. Your use of the information contained in
this work,
however, is at your sole risk. All information in this
work is provided "as
-is", without any warranty, whether express or implied,
of its accuracy,
completeness, fitness for a particular purpose, title or
non-infringement,
and none of the third-party products or information
mentioned in the work
are authored, recommended, supported or guaranteed by
Microsoft
Corporation. Microsoft Corporation shall not be liable
for any damages you
may sustain by using this information, whether direct,
indirect, special,
incidental or consequential, even if it has been advised
of the possibility
of such damages. All prices for products mentioned in
this document are
subject to change without notice.
--
TechGeekPro
MCNGP #36, MCSA, A+, Net+, i-Net+
"Not only am I certified, I'm certifiable!"
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Jtyc
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| Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 4:30 pm Post subject: Re: RIS & Laptops? |
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| Quote: | no no no..
i always just go with admin or 1234
otherwise everyone might get locked out...
see thinking ahead
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Ah....
*takes notes* |
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Neil
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| Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 4:30 pm Post subject: Re: RIS & Laptops? |
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"Jtyc" <jtyc_mcngp@spamblockerbitch!@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:u4LL4BnbEHA.1292@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl:
| Quote: | no no no..
i always just go with admin or 1234
otherwise everyone might get locked out...
see thinking ahead
Ah....
*takes notes*
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blank password, no account lockout, password never expires....
that way I *NEVER* have to think about the passwords...
I also try to post the admin username and p/w somewhere were everyone can
see it, so they don't have to come looking for me when they need it...
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Neil MCNGP #30
Minutus cantorum, minutus balorum, minutus carborata descendum pantorum. |
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