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Edward
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 Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 1:32 pm Post subject: Second test |
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Seems everyone concourse that 306/316 is the preferred first test for most
programmers. But which test leads into the other better for the last two?
Would you recommend 305/315 or 310/320 as the second test? |
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UAError
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| Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 3:31 pm Post subject: Re: Second test |
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"Edward" <elongcore@news.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Seems everyone concourse that 306/316 is the preferred first test for most
programmers. But which test leads into the other better for the last two?
Would you recommend 305/315 or 310/320 as the second test?
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If that is your conclusion you haven't been lurking long
enough.
- Take 306/316 first if you have a background in desktop
applications / smart / thick clients.
- Take 305/315 first if you have a background in Web
applications.
- Take 310/320 second if you also have some background in
middle tier component and/or web services. Otherwise take
the "other one" of 305/315 or 306/316.
- As the third one take the remaining one of 305/315,
306/316, 310/320.
- If you are taking the 70-229 elective feel free to take it
as the VERY FIRST exam, otherwise take it any time before
70-300. If you're waiting for the Yukon/SQL Server 2005
equivalent you could be waiting for some time (6 months if
your lucky, 18 months wouldn't be unusual. For comparison
330/340 was first mentioned around February, went into beta
around the beginning of May and finally came on-line in the
last days of June - the Microsoft training guide appeared
beginning of September, guides from other publishers are
still pending. There has been no peep of an Yukon/SQL Server
2005 exam yet; and there probably won't be until after SQL
Server 2005 goes into public release).
- Take 70-300 last unless you are competent in the skills
being measured AND know the features of the Microsoft Core
Product lines and their various versions, as you may need to
make an upgrade decision based on the requirements (it does
not always default to an upgrade).
BTW: The above assumes that you are building a body of
knowledge and competence, rather than memorizing answers to
exam questions. |
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Edward
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| Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 4:30 pm Post subject: Re: Second test |
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"UAError" <null@null.null> wrote in message
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| Quote: | "Edward" <elongcore@news.net> wrote:
Seems everyone concourse that 306/316 is the preferred first test for most
programmers. But which test leads into the other better for the last two?
Would you recommend 305/315 or 310/320 as the second test?
If that is your conclusion you haven't been lurking long
enough.
- Take 306/316 first if you have a background in desktop
applications / smart / thick clients.
- Take 305/315 first if you have a background in Web
applications.
- Take 310/320 second if you also have some background in
middle tier component and/or web services. Otherwise take
the "other one" of 305/315 or 306/316.
- As the third one take the remaining one of 305/315,
306/316, 310/320.
- If you are taking the 70-229 elective feel free to take it
as the VERY FIRST exam, otherwise take it any time before
70-300. If you're waiting for the Yukon/SQL Server 2005
equivalent you could be waiting for some time (6 months if
your lucky, 18 months wouldn't be unusual. For comparison
330/340 was first mentioned around February, went into beta
around the beginning of May and finally came on-line in the
last days of June - the Microsoft training guide appeared
beginning of September, guides from other publishers are
still pending. There has been no peep of an Yukon/SQL Server
2005 exam yet; and there probably won't be until after SQL
Server 2005 goes into public release).
- Take 70-300 last unless you are competent in the skills
being measured AND know the features of the Microsoft Core
Product lines and their various versions, as you may need to
make an upgrade decision based on the requirements (it does
not always default to an upgrade).
BTW: The above assumes that you are building a body of
knowledge and competence, rather than memorizing answers to
exam questions.
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Thanks for taking the time to reply. I finished my MCSD 6.0 in the spring. I
avoided .NET until recently because I wanted to focus on the task at hand,
and besides my employer is firmly entrenched in 6.0. I found the process of
preparing for the tests most rewarding. It forced me to grow because despite
spend my days developing software, a lot of what was on those tests I had no
experience with, and I really enjoyed broadening my knowledge in windows.
With luck, C# and .NET will be as exciting.
I am puzzled by the people who want to get a cert without the tools to
perform on the job. Even if they get a job because they have a cert, the job
won't last long if they can't do the work.
Edward |
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UAError
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| Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 5:30 pm Post subject: Re: Second test |
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"Edward" <elongcore@news.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Thanks for taking the time to reply. I finished my MCSD 6.0 in the spring. I
avoided .NET until recently because I wanted to focus on the task at hand,
and besides my employer is firmly entrenched in 6.0. I found the process of
preparing for the tests most rewarding. It forced me to grow because despite
spend my days developing software, a lot of what was on those tests I had no
experience with, and I really enjoyed broadening my knowledge in windows.
With luck, C# and .NET will be as exciting.
I am puzzled by the people who want to get a cert without the tools to
perform on the job. Even if they get a job because they have a cert, the job
won't last long if they can't do the work.
Edward
No problem. |
Seeing that you must have passed 70-100 already you may be
able to tackle 70-300 first after some time with:
MCSD .NET Solution Architectures Exam Cram 2 (Exam 70-300)
by Randy Cornish, Don Pavoni, Thomas Moore, Eric Rockenbach,
Ed Tittel (Editor)
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/asin/0789729296
It has worked in at least one case
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&selm=e5rLWJLaDHA.1832%40TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl
however as this does not help you with the MCAD credential
you could delay it a bit.
I started my .NET journey with
Programming C#, Third Edition
by Jesse Liberty
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/asin/0596004893
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/progcsharp3/
I wish I had spent more time with
Microsoft ADO.NET (Core Reference)
by David Sceppa (Author), David Sceppa
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0735614237/qid=1076084086/sr=2-2/ref=sr_2_2/103-9037164-2087023
before I continued with these (blue) Training Guides (not
the red exam crams):
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/guides/guide-display/-/2VJ0RA1Q8QCK8/ref%3Dcm%5Fbg%5Flm/002-5395162-7459259
of course you will still need the MSDN
http://msdn.microsoft.comttp://msdn.microsoft.com/netframework/
to fill in all those little gaps you will run into.
See also one of my earlier posts
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=qcd7205fmmfa2qt2eb8fcpgag7ko7hc9oj%404ax.com |
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Eric
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| Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 6:31 pm Post subject: Re: Second test |
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Edward wrote:
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"UAError" <null@null.null> wrote in message
news:dmv7m0l404qrb29vql7n0vqn4glcrshnpa@4ax.com...
"Edward" <elongcore@news.net> wrote:
Seems everyone concourse that 306/316 is the preferred first test
for most programmers. But which test leads into the other better
for the last two? Would you recommend 305/315 or 310/320 as the
second test?
If that is your conclusion you haven't been lurking long
enough.
- Take 306/316 first if you have a background in desktop
applications / smart / thick clients.
- Take 305/315 first if you have a background in Web
applications.
- Take 310/320 second if you also have some background in
middle tier component and/or web services. Otherwise take
the "other one" of 305/315 or 306/316.
- As the third one take the remaining one of 305/315,
306/316, 310/320.
- If you are taking the 70-229 elective feel free to take it
as the VERY FIRST exam, otherwise take it any time before
70-300. If you're waiting for the Yukon/SQL Server 2005
equivalent you could be waiting for some time (6 months if
your lucky, 18 months wouldn't be unusual. For comparison
330/340 was first mentioned around February, went into beta
around the beginning of May and finally came on-line in the
last days of June - the Microsoft training guide appeared
beginning of September, guides from other publishers are
still pending. There has been no peep of an Yukon/SQL Server
2005 exam yet; and there probably won't be until after SQL
Server 2005 goes into public release).
- Take 70-300 last unless you are competent in the skills
being measured AND know the features of the Microsoft Core
Product lines and their various versions, as you may need to
make an upgrade decision based on the requirements (it does
not always default to an upgrade).
BTW: The above assumes that you are building a body of
knowledge and competence, rather than memorizing answers to
exam questions.
With luck, C# and .NET will be as exciting.
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Not even close! You don't even know the meaning of the word exciting
until you start working with .NET! Maybe exhilarating is a better word
for it.
I can't count the number of hours of sleep I lost while messing around
with some .NET application when I should have been sleeping.
I wondor how many families have been broken up over .NET? Hmmm...maybe
there's some grounds for lawsuits...
Eric |
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