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David C. Allen
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 3:33 pm    Post subject: Question about prep for 70-305 Reply with quote

I have purchased, read and also coded all of the apps Que Exam 70-305 book.
I also purchased the Transcender 70-305 tests. I have taken the 1st two
tests A & B and have scored 740 and 660. I then studied a bunch more and
tried the sample preplogic test that came with the book and only got 54.4%
on it. I swear there is stuff on these tests that was not covered in the
book. I find myself going back to the book and writing info in from the text
explainations. Is this normal? I am trying to to get bummed out about it.
Also what score is needed to pass the real test?

Thanks!
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JustPassed
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 6:31 pm    Post subject: Question about prep for 70-305 Reply with quote

Hello David,
I had a similar experience when i took the preplogic test.
Though I did get a score above 700(whichs the passing
score by the way). I personally think that the preplogic
exams are wayy too tough than the original exam. If you
have noticed that there is a note saying that if you get
95% in that exam then you will pass the real exam for
sure. But personally I think that you are ready for the
exam if you get atleast 800+ in your practice tests(remove
preplogic from the equation). Bottomline is study more.


-JP




Quote:
-----Original Message-----
I have purchased, read and also coded all of the apps Que
Exam 70-305 book.
I also purchased the Transcender 70-305 tests. I have
taken the 1st two
tests A & B and have scored 740 and 660. I then studied a
bunch more and
tried the sample preplogic test that came with the book
and only got 54.4%
on it. I swear there is stuff on these tests that was not
covered in the
book. I find myself going back to the book and writing
info in from the text
explainations. Is this normal? I am trying to to get
bummed out about it.
Also what score is needed to pass the real test?

Thanks!


.
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David C. Allen
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 12:31 am    Post subject: Re: Question about prep for 70-305 Reply with quote

Thanks for the info. This is kind of cheesing me off a bit. I just took test
C from Transcender and got a 640. I printed off all the incorrect questions
and went back into my Que book and found quite a few there were not in my
Que book. So I wrote them in. A lot of it is various syntax things where the
Que book might mention one syntax and the exam might use a different one to
do the same thing. Such a the 3 different ways to put a key,value pair into
the Cache. I only learned on of the three syntax's from reading the book and
so I failed the question.

Anyway I will stay at it.

"JustPassed" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:14ed01c4bab9$f50d6b70$a301280a@phx.gbl...
Quote:
Hello David,
I had a similar experience when i took the preplogic test.
Though I did get a score above 700(whichs the passing
score by the way). I personally think that the preplogic
exams are wayy too tough than the original exam. If you
have noticed that there is a note saying that if you get
95% in that exam then you will pass the real exam for
sure. But personally I think that you are ready for the
exam if you get atleast 800+ in your practice tests(remove
preplogic from the equation). Bottomline is study more.


-JP




-----Original Message-----
I have purchased, read and also coded all of the apps Que
Exam 70-305 book.
I also purchased the Transcender 70-305 tests. I have
taken the 1st two
tests A & B and have scored 740 and 660. I then studied a
bunch more and
tried the sample preplogic test that came with the book
and only got 54.4%
on it. I swear there is stuff on these tests that was not
covered in the
book. I find myself going back to the book and writing
info in from the text
explainations. Is this normal? I am trying to to get
bummed out about it.
Also what score is needed to pass the real test?

Thanks!


.
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Frank Mamone
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 1:30 am    Post subject: Re: Question about prep for 70-305 Reply with quote

David,

That's why you have to go to the links provided in the Transcender questions
and get a deeper knowledge. There's no way one book can cover everything on
the MSDN site. It is not only a practice test but a study aid as well.

- Frank




"David C. Allen" <dallen$@avci.net> wrote in message
news:ucYyHDvuEHA.3624@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Quote:
Thanks for the info. This is kind of cheesing me off a bit. I just took
test
C from Transcender and got a 640. I printed off all the incorrect
questions
and went back into my Que book and found quite a few there were not in my
Que book. So I wrote them in. A lot of it is various syntax things where
the
Que book might mention one syntax and the exam might use a different one
to
do the same thing. Such a the 3 different ways to put a key,value pair
into
the Cache. I only learned on of the three syntax's from reading the book
and
so I failed the question.

Anyway I will stay at it.

"JustPassed" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:14ed01c4bab9$f50d6b70$a301280a@phx.gbl...
Hello David,
I had a similar experience when i took the preplogic test.
Though I did get a score above 700(whichs the passing
score by the way). I personally think that the preplogic
exams are wayy too tough than the original exam. If you
have noticed that there is a note saying that if you get
95% in that exam then you will pass the real exam for
sure. But personally I think that you are ready for the
exam if you get atleast 800+ in your practice tests(remove
preplogic from the equation). Bottomline is study more.


-JP




-----Original Message-----
I have purchased, read and also coded all of the apps Que
Exam 70-305 book.
I also purchased the Transcender 70-305 tests. I have
taken the 1st two
tests A & B and have scored 740 and 660. I then studied a
bunch more and
tried the sample preplogic test that came with the book
and only got 54.4%
on it. I swear there is stuff on these tests that was not
covered in the
book. I find myself going back to the book and writing
info in from the text
explainations. Is this normal? I am trying to to get
bummed out about it.
Also what score is needed to pass the real test?

Thanks!


.


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The Poster Formerly Known
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 7:30 am    Post subject: Re: Question about prep for 70-305 Reply with quote

Quote:
I find myself going back to the book and writing info in from the text
explainations. Is this normal?

I always take notes but from many difference sources, so for me it's
just part of the learning process.

People need to remember that there is [far] more to software
development than what is covered in these simple exams.

Quote:
I am trying to to get bummed out about it.

Don't worry.

Quote:
Also what score is needed to pass the real test?

I'm told exams' nowadays have a 700 pass mark.

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
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The Poster Formerly Known
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 7:31 am    Post subject: Re: Question about prep for 70-305 Reply with quote

Quote:
That's why you have to go to the links provided in the Transcender questions
and get a deeper knowledge.

which anyone can find using a simple search.

Quote:
There's no way one book can cover everything on
the MSDN site.

Very true. In addition, there is no way the MSDN can cover everything
which crops up in the real world.

Quote:
It is not only a practice test but a study aid as well.

gee wizz, people buy practice tests because they hope to get questions
(and answers) which are similar (or the same) to those covered on
exam. The format of these exams is very simple (as are the exams) and
to me is one of the reasons the ms certs count for little these days.

As for Transcaender being a 'study aid', well I for one know how to
search the web (andthe MSDN) for information.

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
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The Poster Formerly Known
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Question about prep for 70-305 Reply with quote

Quote:
I am thinking of scheduling the test for this coming
Monday.

go for it, you've nothing to lose.

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
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The Poster Formerly Known
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Question about prep for 70-305 Reply with quote

Quote:
Can you run a simple search on "get a life" and follow those instructions?

oh please miss silly name, can you tell me how to, you tool.

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
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krsherm
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Question about prep for 70-305 Reply with quote

Can you search on "get a life" and follow the instructions that you find
there?

"The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Spher" wrote:

Quote:
That's why you have to go to the links provided in the Transcender questions
and get a deeper knowledge.

which anyone can find using a simple search.

There's no way one book can cover everything on
the MSDN site.

Very true. In addition, there is no way the MSDN can cover everything
which crops up in the real world.

It is not only a practice test but a study aid as well.

gee wizz, people buy practice tests because they hope to get questions
(and answers) which are similar (or the same) to those covered on
exam. The format of these exams is very simple (as are the exams) and
to me is one of the reasons the ms certs count for little these days.

As for Transcaender being a 'study aid', well I for one know how to
search the web (andthe MSDN) for information.

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
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krsherm
Guest





PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Question about prep for 70-305 Reply with quote

Can you run a simple search on "get a life" and follow those instructions?

"The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Spher" wrote:

Quote:
That's why you have to go to the links provided in the Transcender questions
and get a deeper knowledge.

which anyone can find using a simple search.

There's no way one book can cover everything on
the MSDN site.

Very true. In addition, there is no way the MSDN can cover everything
which crops up in the real world.

It is not only a practice test but a study aid as well.

gee wizz, people buy practice tests because they hope to get questions
(and answers) which are similar (or the same) to those covered on
exam. The format of these exams is very simple (as are the exams) and
to me is one of the reasons the ms certs count for little these days.

As for Transcaender being a 'study aid', well I for one know how to
search the web (andthe MSDN) for information.

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
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David C. Allen
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Question about prep for 70-305 Reply with quote

I'm feeling better now. I studied some areas I was weak and passed the
Transcender random question test with a 980. Only got one wrong. Then I took
the sample (uber hard) preplogic test that came with my que book and got a
93% this morning. I am thinking of scheduling the test for this coming
Monday.


"The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere" <.> wrote in message
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Quote:
I find myself going back to the book and writing info in from the text
explainations. Is this normal?

I always take notes but from many difference sources, so for me it's
just part of the learning process.

People need to remember that there is [far] more to software
development than what is covered in these simple exams.

I am trying to to get bummed out about it.

Don't worry.

Also what score is needed to pass the real test?

I'm told exams' nowadays have a 700 pass mark.

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
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David C. Allen
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 1:30 am    Post subject: Re: Question about prep for 70-305 Reply with quote

But money!

"The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere" <.> wrote in message
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Quote:
I am thinking of scheduling the test for this coming
Monday.

go for it, you've nothing to lose.

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
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The Poster Formerly Known
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 4:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Question about prep for 70-305 Reply with quote

Quote:
But money!

If you're that worried about money, don't bother taking the exams as
you're unlikely to see a return on your investment!

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
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