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BOBO
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 Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 10:10 pm Post subject: Re: Most real Questions |
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Neesuno
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 11:45 pm Post subject: Re: Most real Questions |
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OK, quickly : see inline
"BOBO" <boboland@tin.it> wrote in message news:<HX5Wa.4276$cl3.136142@news2.tin.it>...
| Quote: | 1) You must really be new to this group. Around here, braindumps and
request for them are unwelcome, as you can see. NO matter what for,
who is asking for them or why. No way, no how, not now or never. You
ask for braindumps around here, you better have asbestos underwear,
buddy !
OK! But I was looking for demo test (most realistics ones) not the real
questions of the exams.
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Star with www.google.com and work your way from there, until your
finger hurts. There is a lot of material out there and it is really
easy to find it, if you are good at search engines, and if you want to
spend 10 minutes searching for it. Most likely you will not get that
kind of in formations around here. My next question, however, is this:
why?
Why do you need “real questions” or braindumps, or
material of that kind?
You claim to be a Net Academy instructor, and I will take that at face
value.
If you need the material for you, then sorry, you are not ready to
teach CCNA material, nor are you ready for the test.
If you need the material to show it or pass it along to your students,
then it is even worst. As a CCNA trainer you shouldn’t need
“examples” of CCNA questions, or anything of that matter,
not for you, nor for your students!
You either know the stuff (and then you don’t need the
‘braindumps”) or you don’t. If you don’t know
“CCNA” then maybe you should reconsider teaching it,
regardless if Cisco allows you to teach it. Seriously. Passing
“real questions” to your students is bad. Teach them, have
the LEARN it, until it hurts and it becomes 2nd nature. Same for you.
Read Comer, Perlman, Doyle, Halabi, (and many more) until your head
spins and your nose bleeds. Some of that material is at a higher level
(CCNP and CCIE) but it is pure gold.
Search this very newsgroup for “hansang” and read all of
his posts (5320 posts ..)
Then start again. Trust me. Material taught at the Academy barely
scratches the surface. It does not prepare you to handle a real live
network. I still remember the first time I sat down at the console of
a router, on a LIVE hospital (!!!) network. My hands were shacking and
, my mouth was dry. It IS different when you get out there.
TEACH your students, without ANY “real-like-questions-from the
net” , make them learn the stuff ! Prepare them for the
“out-there”, or they will hate you as soon as they realize
they did not learn enough.
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2) Insulting people is bad enough, doing it in another language is
VERY low, scum-like. Bad puppy...
If I insult is only because people insulting me telling me that i'm a
cheater.
I'm not a cheater. I'm already CCNA with 976 and I know the CCNA program
very well, cause I'm an instructor.
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Two wrongs don't make a right, sorry. Calling people "pezzi di merda"
really gives me a _low_ opinion of you, no matter how many CC** you
can have after your name. And it makes my blood boils, since in 14
years of life here, in the USA, I have always been proud of being
Italian, and always tried to keep the image of OUR culture high. AND,
I still think of our job (IT, Networks ..) as a field that requires
integrity and high ethics. Often we are responsible for Millions of
$$$ in data, equipment, and when the downtime is worth more per minute
than your yearly salary ... You get the point. And if you feel that I
offended or insulted you I offer you, here, in public, my sincere
apologies.
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3) How about your salary ... got a raise lately? Just a few days ago
you posted in this very newsgroup, you made 40,000 euro... Now it is
45,000. Gosh, where do YOU work? I want in.. ;-) Sorry pal, check your
posts a little bit better. People in this newsgroup have a hard time
with this kind of stuff (lies that is)
Dear wiseacre, 40000 euros is the average of the last 5 years and the last
Year my salary was 45000.
Please ask, before spit sentence.
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Ok, on this topic, salary then. Weird, really weird, Bob. I know that
in our (Italian) culture talking about salaries is a big NO-NO. It is
different in the States, but back home, in Italy I did not have any
idea of my coworker’s salary. And you just do not “plain
matter of fact” say how much you make. Forgive me but your
little tirade between 45,000 and/or 40,000 is a little bit
“suspicious”. A little search in it.comp.reti.cisco and
it.lavoro.informatica tells a whole different story. Economy is just
as bad in Italy as it is in the USA, and salaries are somewhere in
between low and bad… If you get a job, seems that IT in Italy is
in the same problems that we have here in the States, if not worst. I
read of ranges of 900-1800 euros/month for different profiles of Cisco
and IT related positions. If you are so lucky to work as a CCNA
trainer (last year, without the CCNA certificate, that is) and earn
twice that much, more power to you. Since you started mentioning
numbers, if you don’t mind, what is your “take home”
/ “stipendio netto” per month? How much gets into your
bank account monthly? Just curious, you know, I might start packing,
and move back home, if without CCNA one can get your range of salary.
My sweet Bologna, here I come (home)!!
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4) Oh, I see, you posted a request for braindumps in the Italian Cisco
newsgroup as well, a few days ago. Braindumps, you just cannot live
without them... can you?
Dear big witty, if you search with Google with "braindump" you find also
many demo test.
I wish to know which ones are the best.
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Try them. And good luck in your Cisco adventure.
Ciao ! |
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inf1n1ty
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 3:33 am Post subject: Re: Most real Questions |
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Are you always asking for it or what? The best you have is to pick on a
newsreader flake-out? loser.
--
inf1n1ty
"BOBO" <boboland@tin.it> wrote in message
news:%%5Wa.4310$cl3.136622@news2.tin.it...
| Quote: | Non only you can understanding Jokes, but you replied twice.
Really unbelivable.
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Bernie
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 6:28 am Post subject: Re: Most real Questions |
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On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:20:46 GMT, "BOBO" <boboland@tin.it> wrote:
| Quote: | Another that speak without know.
You can be a cisco academy instructor only to attend and pass the Cisco
Academy for Instructors.
You have to pass CCNA only in the following 2 years.
So please shut up.
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Oh really??? Bobo, why don't you check out this link...but since you
are a certified trainer you should already know this information, lol:
http://cisco.netacad.net/public/digital_divide/academy_guide/InstructorsTraining.html
Cisco Training
Cisco provides instructor training through Regional Networking
Academies and CATCs. In 22 days of classroom didactic and practicum,
instructors cover all four Cisco courses. To become a Cisco Certified
Academic Instructor (CCAI), the instructor must complete all four
courses, pass the CCNA certification exam, and complete additional
Cisco requirements.
Pretty clear that you have to have passed the exam to be a trainer!
But of course you already knew this since you are a trainer <wink,
wink>...
LOL! The lies get more humorous each time. Keep them coming, I can't
wait for the next lie to be exposed!
I am flattered that I am so intimidating that you won't say this to my
face in a language I can understand. It just goes to show what a
coward you are. But that is ok, if you said it in English it would
still reveal you can't rely on your intelligence to make a point, that
you have to resort to ad hominem attacks.
--Bernie |
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Bernie
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 6:41 am Post subject: Re: Most real Questions |
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On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:11:51 GMT, "BOBO" <boboland@tin.it> wrote:
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1) You must really be new to this group. Around here, braindumps and
request for them are unwelcome, as you can see. NO matter what for,
who is asking for them or why. No way, no how, not now or never. You
ask for braindumps around here, you better have asbestos underwear,
buddy !
OK! But I was looking for demo test (most realistics ones) not the real
questions of the exams.
2) Insulting people is bad enough, doing it in another language is
VERY low, scum-like. Bad puppy...
If I insult is only because people insulting me telling me that i'm a
cheater.
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Well, when you ask for the things that are used to "cheat" you get
labeled a cheater. If you didn't want to cheat you wouldn't ask for
the things that only the cheaters use. So we are to believe this is a
research project of yours??? "Bobo goes undercover to expose the
seedy underworld of exam cheating", lol.
| Quote: | I'm not a cheater. I'm already CCNA with 976
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Probably because you used a braindump. Not too hard to pass with a
976 if you use a braindump...
But really, you previously said you got a **974**. Which is it now?
| Quote: | and I know the CCNA program
very well, cause I'm an instructor.
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Yeah, we all believe you too <g>...
| Quote: | 3) How about your salary ... got a raise lately? Just a few days ago
you posted in this very newsgroup, you made 40,000 euro... Now it is
45,000. Gosh, where do YOU work? I want in.. ;-) Sorry pal, check your
posts a little bit better. People in this newsgroup have a hard time
with this kind of stuff (lies that is)
Dear wiseacre, 40000 euros is the average of the last 5 years and the last
Year my salary was 45000.
Please ask, before spit sentence.
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Sure. Great explanation. We all believe that too. I am also in the
habit of citing my average salary over the past 5-10 years. After all
who cares what I make currently, lol. Sometimes at parties I even
average in my 4 years of high school summer job salary to make myself
appear really poor as a joke. The IRS loves it when I report my income
that way too. In fact I am on a first name basis with my auditor
because of this.
| Quote: | 4) Oh, I see, you posted a request for braindumps in the Italian Cisco
newsgroup as well, a few days ago. Braindumps, you just cannot live
without them... can you?
Dear big witty, if you search with Google with "braindump" you find also
many demo test.
I wish to know which ones are the best.
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Well, since you already passed the CCNA, you should be able to tell
*us* which is the best, right? After all, you know what is on the
real exam, and you can sift through those demos and figure it out for
yourself. What you haven't explained is why you need a CCNA practice
test since you already passed it with a 974 or 976 (or whichever score
you are going to report tomorrow...my bet is tomorrow you will claim a
perfect score).
--Bernie |
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John Agosta
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 6:46 am Post subject: Re: Most real Questions |
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"Bernie" <Bernie@weekend.com> wrote in message
news:cigjiv4emispeut4g01h5erjjgoi9enmgj@4ax.com...
| Quote: | On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:11:51 GMT, "BOBO" <boboland@tin.it> wrote:
1) You must really be new to this group. Around here, braindumps and
request for them are unwelcome, as you can see. NO matter what for,
who is asking for them or why. No way, no how, not now or never. You
ask for braindumps around here, you better have asbestos underwear,
buddy !
OK! But I was looking for demo test (most realistics ones) not the real
questions of the exams.
2) Insulting people is bad enough, doing it in another language is
VERY low, scum-like. Bad puppy...
If I insult is only because people insulting me telling me that i'm a
cheater.
Well, when you ask for the things that are used to "cheat" you get
labeled a cheater. If you didn't want to cheat you wouldn't ask for
the things that only the cheaters use. So we are to believe this is a
research project of yours??? "Bobo goes undercover to expose the
seedy underworld of exam cheating", lol.
I'm not a cheater. I'm already CCNA with 976
Probably because you used a braindump. Not too hard to pass with a
976 if you use a braindump...
But really, you previously said you got a **974**. Which is it now?
and I know the CCNA program
very well, cause I'm an instructor.
Yeah, we all believe you too <g>...
3) How about your salary ... got a raise lately? Just a few days ago
you posted in this very newsgroup, you made 40,000 euro... Now it is
45,000. Gosh, where do YOU work? I want in.. ;-) Sorry pal, check your
posts a little bit better. People in this newsgroup have a hard time
with this kind of stuff (lies that is)
Dear wiseacre, 40000 euros is the average of the last 5 years and the
last
Year my salary was 45000.
Please ask, before spit sentence.
Sure. Great explanation. We all believe that too. I am also in the
habit of citing my average salary over the past 5-10 years. After all
who cares what I make currently, lol. Sometimes at parties I even
average in my 4 years of high school summer job salary to make myself
appear really poor as a joke. The IRS loves it when I report my income
that way too. In fact I am on a first name basis with my auditor
because of this.
4) Oh, I see, you posted a request for braindumps in the Italian Cisco
newsgroup as well, a few days ago. Braindumps, you just cannot live
without them... can you?
Dear big witty, if you search with Google with "braindump" you find also
many demo test.
I wish to know which ones are the best.
Well, since you already passed the CCNA, you should be able to tell
*us* which is the best, right? After all, you know what is on the
real exam, and you can sift through those demos and figure it out for
yourself. What you haven't explained is why you need a CCNA practice
test since you already passed it with a 974 or 976 (or whichever score
you are going to report tomorrow...my bet is tomorrow you will claim a
perfect score).
--Bernie
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I have passed many CCXX tests, and I couldn't tell
you there score on any of them without looking up my
papers. I'd give the guy some slack on the 974/976
matter.....
My main point is, I think he is using these tests to
use in class and/or distribute to students. I know of
instructors that do this.
I have mixed feelings about doing this.
Of course 'actual' questions should never be used.
That IS cheating.
If the tests are commercially purchased tests, and not
vebatim exam questions, then I guess it could be a useful
too. However, one does not know this, do they?
So it's a fine line, and using these products, I beleive,
should not be something an instructor does.
I have built a database of questions I have written myself when teaching
others. I KNOW these are reasonable
exercises, and do not cross the line.
It seems to me that BOBO is probably just trying to
do it the 'easy' way. Of course, doing so he runs the
risk of being accused of cheating, which may or may
not be his intentions.
-ja
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Bernie
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 7:33 am Post subject: Re: Most real Questions |
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On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 20:46:33 -0500, "John Agosta"
<j_agosta@wideopenwest.kom> wrote:
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"Bernie" <Bernie@weekend.com> wrote in message
news:cigjiv4emispeut4g01h5erjjgoi9enmgj@4ax.com...
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:11:51 GMT, "BOBO" <boboland@tin.it> wrote:
1) You must really be new to this group. Around here, braindumps and
request for them are unwelcome, as you can see. NO matter what for,
who is asking for them or why. No way, no how, not now or never. You
ask for braindumps around here, you better have asbestos underwear,
buddy !
OK! But I was looking for demo test (most realistics ones) not the real
questions of the exams.
2) Insulting people is bad enough, doing it in another language is
VERY low, scum-like. Bad puppy...
If I insult is only because people insulting me telling me that i'm a
cheater.
Well, when you ask for the things that are used to "cheat" you get
labeled a cheater. If you didn't want to cheat you wouldn't ask for
the things that only the cheaters use. So we are to believe this is a
research project of yours??? "Bobo goes undercover to expose the
seedy underworld of exam cheating", lol.
I'm not a cheater. I'm already CCNA with 976
Probably because you used a braindump. Not too hard to pass with a
976 if you use a braindump...
But really, you previously said you got a **974**. Which is it now?
and I know the CCNA program
very well, cause I'm an instructor.
Yeah, we all believe you too <g>...
3) How about your salary ... got a raise lately? Just a few days ago
you posted in this very newsgroup, you made 40,000 euro... Now it is
45,000. Gosh, where do YOU work? I want in.. ;-) Sorry pal, check your
posts a little bit better. People in this newsgroup have a hard time
with this kind of stuff (lies that is)
Dear wiseacre, 40000 euros is the average of the last 5 years and the
last
Year my salary was 45000.
Please ask, before spit sentence.
Sure. Great explanation. We all believe that too. I am also in the
habit of citing my average salary over the past 5-10 years. After all
who cares what I make currently, lol. Sometimes at parties I even
average in my 4 years of high school summer job salary to make myself
appear really poor as a joke. The IRS loves it when I report my income
that way too. In fact I am on a first name basis with my auditor
because of this.
4) Oh, I see, you posted a request for braindumps in the Italian Cisco
newsgroup as well, a few days ago. Braindumps, you just cannot live
without them... can you?
Dear big witty, if you search with Google with "braindump" you find also
many demo test.
I wish to know which ones are the best.
Well, since you already passed the CCNA, you should be able to tell
*us* which is the best, right? After all, you know what is on the
real exam, and you can sift through those demos and figure it out for
yourself. What you haven't explained is why you need a CCNA practice
test since you already passed it with a 974 or 976 (or whichever score
you are going to report tomorrow...my bet is tomorrow you will claim a
perfect score).
--Bernie
I have passed many CCXX tests, and I couldn't tell
you there score on any of them without looking up my
papers. I'd give the guy some slack on the 974/976
matter.....
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I would normally. But Bobo has been caught in at least two lies
already. This is the third. With someone that isn't making up their
life story as they go, I am usually very forgiving of these types of
memory lapses.
But as far as that goes, supposedly Bobo passed *very* recently, so it
isn't like we are asking him to remember a 3rd grade math exam score.
Bobo is also very proud of his score to the point where he has listed
it twice in this group. So it isn't far from his thoughts. I would
expect under these circumstances that his memory would be fairly
accurate.
| Quote: | My main point is, I think he is using these tests to
use in class and/or distribute to students. I know of
instructors that do this.
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I don't doubt it **if** he is an instructor in the first place.
According to the Cisco website you need to pass the CCNA to be an
instructor, and according to last weeks version of Bobo's life story,
he just passed it eleven days ago. On top of that Bobo is asking for
CCNP exams, but the academy was only a CCNA level course last time I
looked into what the academy was teaching. We also know that Bobo
isn't a CCNP yet, unless he passed four exams in eleven days. So I
really don't think the benefit of the doubt is warranted here. You
know me, JA, I try to give the benefit of the doubt unless it is a
stretch of the imagination to do so.
| Quote: | I have mixed feelings about doing this.
Of course 'actual' questions should never be used.
That IS cheating.
If the tests are commercially purchased tests, and not
vebatim exam questions, then I guess it could be a useful
too. However, one does not know this, do they?
So it's a fine line, and using these products, I beleive,
should not be something an instructor does.
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But buying an exam that is intended for your use only and turning it
into course material is just as unethical as cheating. Usually when
you purchase material of that nature, the license prohibits you from
reusing it in such ways. Under those cases it is not only unethical,
but illegal to boot. That is why either way, Bobo is carefully hiding
his real purposes for needing braindumps. One way or the other he is
up to no good.
| Quote: | I have built a database of questions I have written myself when teaching
others. I KNOW these are reasonable
exercises, and do not cross the line.
It seems to me that BOBO is probably just trying to
do it the 'easy' way. Of course, doing so he runs the
risk of being accused of cheating, which may or may
not be his intentions.
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Ok. Lets assume you are right. Why is Bobo asking for CCNP exams?
Is it realistic to believe that an academy instructor just got
certified eleven days ago when it is required that they get certified
in order to become an instructor? Why would Bobo's salary fluctuate
from day to day? After all, it is one thing to forget your exact exam
score and entirely another to forget what you make!!!!
Those questions prevent me from buying the "he is just a lazy
instructor" excuse. It is also the discrepancy in his
reasons/excuses/replies that caused most of these questions and
further doubts.
--Bernie |
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BOBO
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 2:51 pm Post subject: Re: Most real Questions |
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| Quote: | Oh really??? Bobo, why don't you check out this link...but since you
are a certified trainer you should already know this information, lol:
http://cisco.netacad.net/public/digital_divide/academy_guide/InstructorsTraining.html
Cisco Training
Cisco provides instructor training through Regional Networking
Academies and CATCs. In 22 days of classroom didactic and practicum,
instructors cover all four Cisco courses. To become a Cisco Certified
Academic Instructor (CCAI), the instructor must complete all four
courses, pass the CCNA certification exam, and complete additional
Cisco requirements.
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If there is a liar here, it were you.
I told you that the ccna certification is mandatory but you have to take it
in the following 2 years by the date of course termination.
and in fact I finished the course in October 2001 and I Took the exam in
July of this year.
I repeat, if you little brain can understand this.....better if you close
your mouth for ever!
Another demonstration?
Look at this:
if is not sufficient I can send you by mail a copy of Instructor Site or
certificate.
So you can shoot *** alsewhere.
February 6, 2003
Dear User,
You have been assigned as the primary instructor for the class listed below:
Class Name: IFTS-semestre2
Course: CCNA 2: Routers and Routing Basics
Language: English
Version: 2.1.4
Start Date: 06/02/2003
End Date: 02/04/2003
Final Exam Date: 28/02/2003
Timezone: (GMT+01:00) Amsterdam, Berlin, Bern, Rome, Stockholm, Vienna
Max Enrollment: 16
Primary Instructor: Andrea Rinaldi
Secondary Instructor: Cataldo Musci
Daily Start Time: 09:00
Daily End Time: 17:00
Location: IFOA - sede Teleter di Parma
Environment: 100% In Person
Room Name: Laboratorio Cisco
Personalized Feedback(Internal) Type: R
Personalized Feedback (External) Type: R
Please refer to the resource Section if you need additional strategies for
presenting the curriculum to your students.
Good luck and have fun!
Academy Connection Administrator
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Pretty clear that you have to have passed the exam to be a trainer!
But of course you already knew this since you are a trainer <wink,
wink>...
LOL! The lies get more humorous each time. Keep them coming, I can't
wait for the next lie to be exposed!
Gente di merda!
I am flattered that I am so intimidating that you won't say this to my
face in a language I can understand. It just goes to show what a
coward you are. But that is ok, if you said it in English it would
still reveal you can't rely on your intelligence to make a point, that
you have to resort to ad hominem attacks.
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If you don't know my language is not a my fault. But if you prefer i can
tell you anything you want in English, so your little brain can understand a
little bit more. |
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BOBO
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 3:03 pm Post subject: Re: Most real Questions |
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"Bernie" <Bernie@weekend.com> wrote in message
news:a8jjivcvngui63cl64m8stg3d715pj1l74@4ax.com...
| Quote: | On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 20:46:33 -0500, "John Agosta"
j_agosta@wideopenwest.kom> wrote:
"Bernie" <Bernie@weekend.com> wrote in message
news:cigjiv4emispeut4g01h5erjjgoi9enmgj@4ax.com...
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:11:51 GMT, "BOBO" <boboland@tin.it> wrote:
1) You must really be new to this group. Around here, braindumps and
request for them are unwelcome, as you can see. NO matter what for,
who is asking for them or why. No way, no how, not now or never. You
ask for braindumps around here, you better have asbestos underwear,
buddy !
OK! But I was looking for demo test (most realistics ones) not the
real
questions of the exams.
2) Insulting people is bad enough, doing it in another language is
VERY low, scum-like. Bad puppy...
If I insult is only because people insulting me telling me that i'm a
cheater.
Well, when you ask for the things that are used to "cheat" you get
labeled a cheater. If you didn't want to cheat you wouldn't ask for
the things that only the cheaters use. So we are to believe this is a
research project of yours??? "Bobo goes undercover to expose the
seedy underworld of exam cheating", lol.
I'm not a cheater. I'm already CCNA with 976
Probably because you used a braindump. Not too hard to pass with a
976 if you use a braindump...
But really, you previously said you got a **974**. Which is it now?
and I know the CCNA program
very well, cause I'm an instructor.
Yeah, we all believe you too <g>...
3) How about your salary ... got a raise lately? Just a few days ago
you posted in this very newsgroup, you made 40,000 euro... Now it is
45,000. Gosh, where do YOU work? I want in.. ;-) Sorry pal, check
your
posts a little bit better. People in this newsgroup have a hard time
with this kind of stuff (lies that is)
Dear wiseacre, 40000 euros is the average of the last 5 years and the
last
Year my salary was 45000.
Please ask, before spit sentence.
Sure. Great explanation. We all believe that too. I am also in the
habit of citing my average salary over the past 5-10 years. After all
who cares what I make currently, lol. Sometimes at parties I even
average in my 4 years of high school summer job salary to make myself
appear really poor as a joke. The IRS loves it when I report my income
that way too. In fact I am on a first name basis with my auditor
because of this.
4) Oh, I see, you posted a request for braindumps in the Italian
Cisco
newsgroup as well, a few days ago. Braindumps, you just cannot live
without them... can you?
Dear big witty, if you search with Google with "braindump" you find
also
many demo test.
I wish to know which ones are the best.
Well, since you already passed the CCNA, you should be able to tell
*us* which is the best, right? After all, you know what is on the
real exam, and you can sift through those demos and figure it out for
yourself. What you haven't explained is why you need a CCNA practice
test since you already passed it with a 974 or 976 (or whichever score
you are going to report tomorrow...my bet is tomorrow you will claim a
perfect score).
--Bernie
I have passed many CCXX tests, and I couldn't tell
you there score on any of them without looking up my
papers. I'd give the guy some slack on the 974/976
matter.....
I would normally. But Bobo has been caught in at least two lies
already. This is the third. With someone that isn't making up their
life story as they go, I am usually very forgiving of these types of
memory lapses.
But as far as that goes, supposedly Bobo passed *very* recently, so it
isn't like we are asking him to remember a 3rd grade math exam score.
Bobo is also very proud of his score to the point where he has listed
it twice in this group. So it isn't far from his thoughts. I would
expect under these circumstances that his memory would be fairly
accurate.
My main point is, I think he is using these tests to
use in class and/or distribute to students. I know of
instructors that do this.
I don't doubt it **if** he is an instructor in the first place.
According to the Cisco website you need to pass the CCNA to be an
instructor, and according to last weeks version of Bobo's life story,
he just passed it eleven days ago. On top of that Bobo is asking for
CCNP exams, but the academy was only a CCNA level course last time I
looked into what the academy was teaching. We also know that Bobo
isn't a CCNP yet, unless he passed four exams in eleven days. So I
really don't think the benefit of the doubt is warranted here. You
know me, JA, I try to give the benefit of the doubt unless it is a
stretch of the imagination to do so.
I have mixed feelings about doing this.
Of course 'actual' questions should never be used.
That IS cheating.
If the tests are commercially purchased tests, and not
vebatim exam questions, then I guess it could be a useful
too. However, one does not know this, do they?
So it's a fine line, and using these products, I beleive,
should not be something an instructor does.
But buying an exam that is intended for your use only and turning it
into course material is just as unethical as cheating. Usually when
you purchase material of that nature, the license prohibits you from
reusing it in such ways. Under those cases it is not only unethical,
but illegal to boot. That is why either way, Bobo is carefully hiding
his real purposes for needing braindumps. One way or the other he is
up to no good.
I have built a database of questions I have written myself when teaching
others. I KNOW these are reasonable
exercises, and do not cross the line.
It seems to me that BOBO is probably just trying to
do it the 'easy' way. Of course, doing so he runs the
risk of being accused of cheating, which may or may
not be his intentions.
Ok. Lets assume you are right. Why is Bobo asking for CCNP exams?
Is it realistic to believe that an academy instructor just got
certified eleven days ago when it is required that they get certified
in order to become an instructor? Why would Bobo's salary fluctuate
from day to day? After all, it is one thing to forget your exact exam
score and entirely another to forget what you make!!!!
Those questions prevent me from buying the "he is just a lazy
instructor" excuse. It is also the discrepancy in his
reasons/excuses/replies that caused most of these questions and
further doubts.
--Bernie
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I already replied you before.
So I hope you feel yourself like a stupid.
i REPEAT, if you want I can send you by mail :
- copy of instructor certification
- screenshot of cisco Instructor website
- screenshot of cisco ccna website
- copy of My taxation sheet of the last two years
What you need MOre?
Are you happy or you're still crying?
P.s. the score was 974 and without cheating. if so I don't need to ask you
what are the Best Questions to buy.
Figura di cacca che ci hai fatto caro mio
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On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 09:51:38 GMT, "BOBO" <boboland@tin.it> wrote:
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Oh really??? Bobo, why don't you check out this link...but since you
are a certified trainer you should already know this information, lol:
http://cisco.netacad.net/public/digital_divide/academy_guide/InstructorsTraining.html
Cisco Training
Cisco provides instructor training through Regional Networking
Academies and CATCs. In 22 days of classroom didactic and practicum,
instructors cover all four Cisco courses. To become a Cisco Certified
Academic Instructor (CCAI), the instructor must complete all four
courses, pass the CCNA certification exam, and complete additional
Cisco requirements.
If there is a liar here, it were you.
I told you that the ccna certification is mandatory but you have to take it
in the following 2 years by the date of course termination.
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Oh sure. I got my drivers license and two years later I took the
driving exam. Now I know why everyone complains about the poor
quality of instruction at the academy...all the instructors are
newbies too who aren't even ready to pass the CCNA when they start
teaching, lol.
However, I refer you back to the link from Cisco:
http://cisco.netacad.net/public/digital_divide/academy_guide/InstructorsTraining.html
No mention of being able to complete all the requirements **after**
you have been teaching and certified as a teacher for two years...
| Quote: | and in fact I finished the course in October 2001 and I Took the exam in
July of this year.
I repeat, if you little brain can understand this.....better if you close
your mouth for ever!
Another demonstration?
Look at this:
if is not sufficient I can send you by mail a copy of Instructor Site or
certificate.
So you can shoot *** alsewhere.
February 6, 2003
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That is cute. Cisco sent you the email the day the course started
letting you know you were teaching it, lol.
| Quote: | Dear User,
You have been assigned as the primary instructor for the class listed below:
Class Name: IFTS-semestre2
Course: CCNA 2: Routers and Routing Basics
Language: English
Version: 2.1.4
Start Date: 06/02/2003
End Date: 02/04/2003
Final Exam Date: 28/02/2003
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Yes, the final exam date is prior to the end of the class and shortly
after the beginning, lol. Another fraud. Bobo, you need to be more
careful how you doctor up your documentation, lol.
| Quote: | Timezone: (GMT+01:00) Amsterdam, Berlin, Bern, Rome, Stockholm, Vienna
Max Enrollment: 16
Primary Instructor: Andrea Rinaldi
Secondary Instructor: Cataldo Musci
Daily Start Time: 09:00
Daily End Time: 17:00
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Gee where did you find time to be that freelance consultant on top of
the full day of teaching??? Rofl. More lies apparently.
| Quote: | Location: IFOA - sede Teleter di Parma
Environment: 100% In Person
Room Name: Laboratorio Cisco
Personalized Feedback(Internal) Type: R
Personalized Feedback (External) Type: R
Please refer to the resource Section if you need additional strategies for
presenting the curriculum to your students.
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HEY LOOK!! I'M A CERTIFIED INSTRUCTOR TOO!!! And this proves it:
February 6, 2003
Dear User,
You have been assigned as the primary instructor for the class listed
below:
Class Name: IFTS-semester 2
Course: CCNA 2: Routers and Routing Basics
Language: English
Version: 2.1.4
Start Date: 06/02/2003
End Date: 02/04/2003
Final Exam Date: 28/02/2003
Timezone: (GMT-06:00) Central Time (US & Canada)
Max Enrollment: 16
Primary Instructor: Bernie
Secondary Instructor: Bernie's cousin
Daily Start Time: 09:00
Daily End Time: 17:00
Location: IFOA - University of Bumpkins
Environment: 100% In Person
Room Name: Laboratory Cisco
Personalized Feedback(Internal) Type: R
Personalized Feedback (External) Type: R
Please refer to the resource Section if you need additional strategies
for presenting the curriculum to your students.
Good luck and have fun!
Academy Connection Administrator
LOL.
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Pretty clear that you have to have passed the exam to be a trainer!
But of course you already knew this since you are a trainer <wink,
wink>...
LOL! The lies get more humorous each time. Keep them coming, I can't
wait for the next lie to be exposed!
Gente di merda!
I am flattered that I am so intimidating that you won't say this to my
face in a language I can understand. It just goes to show what a
coward you are. But that is ok, if you said it in English it would
still reveal you can't rely on your intelligence to make a point, that
you have to resort to ad hominem attacks.
If you don't know my language is not a my fault. But if you prefer i can
tell you anything you want in English, so your little brain can understand a
little bit more.
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Then do so if it makes you feel better. I see you are still too
cowardly to try to insult me in English in your other post today.
Lol. But that is what we have come to expect from you Bobo...
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 8:08 pm Post subject: Re: Most real Questions |
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On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 10:03:18 GMT, "BOBO" <boboland@tin.it> wrote:
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"Bernie" <Bernie@weekend.com> wrote in message
news:a8jjivcvngui63cl64m8stg3d715pj1l74@4ax.com...
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 20:46:33 -0500, "John Agosta"
j_agosta@wideopenwest.kom> wrote:
"Bernie" <Bernie@weekend.com> wrote in message
news:cigjiv4emispeut4g01h5erjjgoi9enmgj@4ax.com...
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:11:51 GMT, "BOBO" <boboland@tin.it> wrote:
1) You must really be new to this group. Around here, braindumps and
request for them are unwelcome, as you can see. NO matter what for,
who is asking for them or why. No way, no how, not now or never. You
ask for braindumps around here, you better have asbestos underwear,
buddy !
OK! But I was looking for demo test (most realistics ones) not the
real
questions of the exams.
2) Insulting people is bad enough, doing it in another language is
VERY low, scum-like. Bad puppy...
If I insult is only because people insulting me telling me that i'm a
cheater.
Well, when you ask for the things that are used to "cheat" you get
labeled a cheater. If you didn't want to cheat you wouldn't ask for
the things that only the cheaters use. So we are to believe this is a
research project of yours??? "Bobo goes undercover to expose the
seedy underworld of exam cheating", lol.
I'm not a cheater. I'm already CCNA with 976
Probably because you used a braindump. Not too hard to pass with a
976 if you use a braindump...
But really, you previously said you got a **974**. Which is it now?
and I know the CCNA program
very well, cause I'm an instructor.
Yeah, we all believe you too <g>...
3) How about your salary ... got a raise lately? Just a few days ago
you posted in this very newsgroup, you made 40,000 euro... Now it is
45,000. Gosh, where do YOU work? I want in.. ;-) Sorry pal, check
your
posts a little bit better. People in this newsgroup have a hard time
with this kind of stuff (lies that is)
Dear wiseacre, 40000 euros is the average of the last 5 years and the
last
Year my salary was 45000.
Please ask, before spit sentence.
Sure. Great explanation. We all believe that too. I am also in the
habit of citing my average salary over the past 5-10 years. After all
who cares what I make currently, lol. Sometimes at parties I even
average in my 4 years of high school summer job salary to make myself
appear really poor as a joke. The IRS loves it when I report my income
that way too. In fact I am on a first name basis with my auditor
because of this.
4) Oh, I see, you posted a request for braindumps in the Italian
Cisco
newsgroup as well, a few days ago. Braindumps, you just cannot live
without them... can you?
Dear big witty, if you search with Google with "braindump" you find
also
many demo test.
I wish to know which ones are the best.
Well, since you already passed the CCNA, you should be able to tell
*us* which is the best, right? After all, you know what is on the
real exam, and you can sift through those demos and figure it out for
yourself. What you haven't explained is why you need a CCNA practice
test since you already passed it with a 974 or 976 (or whichever score
you are going to report tomorrow...my bet is tomorrow you will claim a
perfect score).
--Bernie
I have passed many CCXX tests, and I couldn't tell
you there score on any of them without looking up my
papers. I'd give the guy some slack on the 974/976
matter.....
I would normally. But Bobo has been caught in at least two lies
already. This is the third. With someone that isn't making up their
life story as they go, I am usually very forgiving of these types of
memory lapses.
But as far as that goes, supposedly Bobo passed *very* recently, so it
isn't like we are asking him to remember a 3rd grade math exam score.
Bobo is also very proud of his score to the point where he has listed
it twice in this group. So it isn't far from his thoughts. I would
expect under these circumstances that his memory would be fairly
accurate.
My main point is, I think he is using these tests to
use in class and/or distribute to students. I know of
instructors that do this.
I don't doubt it **if** he is an instructor in the first place.
According to the Cisco website you need to pass the CCNA to be an
instructor, and according to last weeks version of Bobo's life story,
he just passed it eleven days ago. On top of that Bobo is asking for
CCNP exams, but the academy was only a CCNA level course last time I
looked into what the academy was teaching. We also know that Bobo
isn't a CCNP yet, unless he passed four exams in eleven days. So I
really don't think the benefit of the doubt is warranted here. You
know me, JA, I try to give the benefit of the doubt unless it is a
stretch of the imagination to do so.
I have mixed feelings about doing this.
Of course 'actual' questions should never be used.
That IS cheating.
If the tests are commercially purchased tests, and not
vebatim exam questions, then I guess it could be a useful
too. However, one does not know this, do they?
So it's a fine line, and using these products, I beleive,
should not be something an instructor does.
But buying an exam that is intended for your use only and turning it
into course material is just as unethical as cheating. Usually when
you purchase material of that nature, the license prohibits you from
reusing it in such ways. Under those cases it is not only unethical,
but illegal to boot. That is why either way, Bobo is carefully hiding
his real purposes for needing braindumps. One way or the other he is
up to no good.
I have built a database of questions I have written myself when teaching
others. I KNOW these are reasonable
exercises, and do not cross the line.
It seems to me that BOBO is probably just trying to
do it the 'easy' way. Of course, doing so he runs the
risk of being accused of cheating, which may or may
not be his intentions.
Ok. Lets assume you are right. Why is Bobo asking for CCNP exams?
Is it realistic to believe that an academy instructor just got
certified eleven days ago when it is required that they get certified
in order to become an instructor? Why would Bobo's salary fluctuate
from day to day? After all, it is one thing to forget your exact exam
score and entirely another to forget what you make!!!!
Those questions prevent me from buying the "he is just a lazy
instructor" excuse. It is also the discrepancy in his
reasons/excuses/replies that caused most of these questions and
further doubts.
--Bernie
I already replied you before.
So I hope you feel yourself like a stupid.
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Nope, you made yourself look stupid with the obviously fraudulent
dates on your "email" from Cisco. That is lie number 4 from you.
Care to make it 5?
| Quote: | i REPEAT, if you want I can send you by mail :
- copy of instructor certification
- screenshot of cisco Instructor website
- screenshot of cisco ccna website
- copy of My taxation sheet of the last two years
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Lets see. A picture from your computer proves sooooo much. Like I
can't view source of a webpage, recreate it in FrontPage with a copy
and paste, insert my name into the list and take a picture of it.
Just like posting a plain text "email from Cisco" is such rigorous
proof of your status...
As for your tax sheets, if you think I am impressed by 40k euros or
45k euros, then feel free to post whatever here. That will prove
(assuming it is not doctored up) that you really don't make that much.
Maybe more than a lot of IT people, but not that much in the larger
picture. It is even more humorous that you think your salary is
supposed to *really* impressive. Maybe it is to your "students" at
"the academy" but not here.
| Quote: | What you need MOre?
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I'm still waiting for the first piece of evidence that isn't an
obvious fraud, lol. "More" would imply that there was something
proven in the first place.
| Quote: | Are you happy or you're still crying?
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Extremely happy.
| Quote: | P.s. the score was 974 and without cheating. if so I don't need to ask you
what are the Best Questions to buy.
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So why did you ask which is the best then????? You just said you are
so knowledgeable that you don't need to ask.
| Quote: | Figura di cacca che ci hai fatto caro mio
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In English if you aren't a coward, please.
--Bernie |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 8:51 pm Post subject: Re: Most real Questions |
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Speak, speak.
So, please write to education@gruppoinfor.it and ask them if I'm an
IStructor or not.
After this, let us know the truth and feel free to vanish.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 8:56 pm Post subject: Re: Most real Questions |
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Ehi BOBO, what are you expecting?
small brain, small reply.
Please read the other post so you can finally shut up.
Don't you suffer of inferiority complexes?
HIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIH |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 11:47 pm Post subject: Re: Most real Questions |
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On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 15:56:27 GMT, "BOBO" <boboland@tin.it> wrote:
| Quote: | Ehi BOBO, what are you expecting?
small brain, small reply.
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Good, I am glad that you are finally aware of your own weakness. I
couldn't have said it better myself, lol.
| Quote: | Please read the other post so you can finally shut up.
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Actually I think at least three other people in here, including your
own country men, are waiting for *you* to shut up.
| Quote: | Don't you suffer of inferiority complexes?
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Nope, do you?
| Quote: | HIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIH
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 11:51 pm Post subject: Re: Most real Questions |
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On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 15:51:42 GMT, "BOBO" <boboland@tin.it> wrote:
I don't need to prove that you are in instructor. That is *your* job,
or did you fail debate in high school?
| Quote: | After this, let us know the truth and feel free to vanish.
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The truth is:
http://cisco.netacad.net/public/digital_divide/academy_guide/InstructorsTraining.html
I don't need to disprove that link...you do however.
As for vanishing, I was here before you and I will be here after you
cheat your way through the CCNP and then vanish yourself. We have
seen countless of your type come through here, get their braindumps,
get their cert, and then leave. You will be no different. I'll put
money on that.
Very simple. You have made four claims that have been contradicted by
yourself or by Cisco. It is up to *you* to prove that you aren't
lying here. Extremely simple. Put up or shut up. You have given us
several obviously fraudulent "proofs". Try working harder at your
fraud next time.
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