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BOBO
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 Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2003 2:49 pm Post subject: Re: Most real Questions |
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Bhe, prima di tutto non c'e' scritto da nessuna parte che la lingua in cui
si debba scrivere in questo NG debba essere per forza l'inglese.
Se il mio inglese non è buono penso sia appunto perdonabile e comunque lo è
abbastanza per capire gli insulti.
Questi non mi feriscono molto al contrario di quelli che mi dicono del
bugiardo, che non sono mai stato. Lo è semmai chi sostiene che gli esami
vanno sostenuti senza Braindumps o Domande di prova (che in genere sono la
stessa cosa e lo sai bene anche tu).
Comunque sia io la prova del fatto che non mento lo data e anche piuttosto
efficace. quindi dovresti star zitto pure tu a questo punto. Poi se pensi
che siano necessarie altre prove non è un problema basta una Mail
all'indirizzo che ti ho fornito per dissolvere ogni dubbio su ognuna delle
mie supposte menzogne.
Visto che continuate nella vostra battaglia, io non sono certo quello che
mollerà facendo credere di essere un bugiardo.
Ora visto che sei un bravo inglesino per favore traduci il tutto.
GRAZIE |
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BOBO
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2003 2:56 pm Post subject: Re: Most real Questions |
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Ummm, yeah. Come in where? Can you tell me what "Accesso negato"
means? LOL! Oh, I get it, I can't log into the real Cisco academy
because you want me to log into the secret academy where uncertified
people like yourself are allowed to teach and hand out braindumps to
students, lol.
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I told you. You are very stupid. Someone get the occunt before you.
If you are not able to insert User ID and password, please don't work in It.
Just work in TI (terrible Idiots).
Oh yes! why I'm an istructor wth the power of creating account to a silly
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BOBO
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2003 3:37 pm Post subject: Re: Most real Questions |
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"Bernie" <Bernie@weekend.com> wrote in message
news:gj8miv0k0u9150423lfvmuqnmrr14d1v9n@4ax.com...
Cisco only omit technical details that you can verify easily with a mail.
Don't you feel stupid? The link is wrong. Another more demonstration. You
are more and more funny.
| Quote: | Why stop now then? Keep making a fraud of yourself, lol. Keep using
braindumps, etc.
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But, How Much you are laughing......In italy we say that.............the
laugh abound on the stupid's face. (like I ever said about you).
| Quote: | I don't feel ignorant, because it is not I that just recently managed
to pass the CCNA after supposedly teaching classes for a semester. As
I said before, now I know why so many people complain about the
quality of the NetAcad, lol.
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yes, for the same reason that The insanes tell about themselves that are not
mad.
However where are those people which complain about quality?
I ever heard about this. In italian Forum we think the exact contrary.....
For your Knowledge......Microsoft until 2001 done the same.........so you
will be happy to know this.
In 2000 I was teaching Microsoft courses for which i wasn't
certificate.......and now is not so different.
So,Please go laughing on another place......... |
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Ceyko
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2003 6:04 pm Post subject: Re: Most real Questions |
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| Quote: | For your Knowledge......Microsoft until 2001 done the same.........so you
will be happy to know this.
In 2000 I was teaching Microsoft courses for which i wasn't
certificate.......and now is not so different.
So,Please go laughing on another place.........
Hence me always training myself. Why should I PAY to have a non-expert |
training me when I can do it myself. At least then I only have myself to
blame. :)
Ceyko
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BOBO
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2003 6:25 pm Post subject: Re: Most real Questions |
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Because often certification does not make a good instructor. There are many
certificate people that know only the questions and don't know how put their
hands on a console cable.
If you are an instructor, you have only to prove your skiil where you work
for, and no certifications can do it. However a minimal certification often
is required.
Now To be a MCT you need MCSE certification, wich is not certainly the CCNA.
Cisco need to pass an instructor Course. In My class we had to pass 40 and
more exams in 10 days of total course and a Final Exam much similar to CCNA.
We had also to prove aur skill simulating 3 lessons on CCNA program.
If it is no enough, you can go to a Cisco Catalog Course with you 2000 $ and
have a CCIE.
However if you want to compare my knowledge with you, I will be always
ready.
Bye Bye |
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Rob
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2003 6:35 pm Post subject: Re: Most real Questions |
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Uhu ?
What did you say ? Maybe I did not understand your sentence, but I
think it reads something like :
| Quote: | If it is no enough, you can go to a Cisco Catalog Course with you 2000 $ and
have a CCIE.
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I hope you are not implying that for $2000 you can get the CCIE.
Please tell me that is not the case. ??
Again, maybe I just cannot read your post well enough to understand.
Plesae elaborate on that sentence.
On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 13:25:34 GMT, "BOBO" <boboland@tin.it> wrote:
| Quote: | Because often certification does not make a good instructor. There are many
certificate people that know only the questions and don't know how put their
hands on a console cable.
If you are an instructor, you have only to prove your skiil where you work
for, and no certifications can do it. However a minimal certification often
is required.
Now To be a MCT you need MCSE certification, wich is not certainly the CCNA.
Cisco need to pass an instructor Course. In My class we had to pass 40 and
more exams in 10 days of total course and a Final Exam much similar to CCNA.
We had also to prove aur skill simulating 3 lessons on CCNA program.
If it is no enough, you can go to a Cisco Catalog Course with you 2000 $ and
have a CCIE.
However if you want to compare my knowledge with you, I will be always
ready.
Bye Bye
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BOBO
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2003 6:41 pm Post subject: Re: Most real Questions |
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Here a corse in an official Cisco training center cost about 2000$.
Better now? |
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Rob
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2003 6:59 pm Post subject: Re: Most real Questions |
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Oh, ok then, CCIE training is $2,000. That is not too expensive.
Intersting, how long is it ? What does it include ?
If you have a link, could you please send it to me ?
I will be over there for a while, so I am kind of interested.
Where is it located ?
Rob.
On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 13:41:14 GMT, "BOBO" <boboland@tin.it> wrote:
| Quote: | Here a corse in an official Cisco training center cost about 2000$.
Better now?
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Bernie
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2003 7:20 pm Post subject: Re: Most real Questions |
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On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 10:37:08 GMT, "BOBO" <boboland@tin.it> wrote:
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"Bernie" <Bernie@weekend.com> wrote in message
news:gj8miv0k0u9150423lfvmuqnmrr14d1v9n@4ax.com...
On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 01:22:30 GMT, "BOBO" <boboland@tin.it> wrote:
I think You're satisfied, now.
I am??? Not quite. Remember, I am not the one asking for braindumps,
and I am not the one that is claiming this Cisco site is incorrect.
http://www.cisco.com/global/IT/unified_channels/area_partner/partner_home.shtm
Cisco only omit technical details that you can verify easily with a mail.
Don't you feel stupid? The link is wrong.
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The link is wrong. Ok, Cisco is wrong and you are right. We all
believe that
| Quote: | Another more demonstration. You
are more and more funny.
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What a demonstration that you are a clerical worker or another
doctored up email? Please keep them coming.
| Quote: | Why stop now then? Keep making a fraud of yourself, lol. Keep using
braindumps, etc.
But, How Much you are laughing......In italy we say that.............the
laugh abound on the stupid's face. (like I ever said about you).
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So is that what you are saying about yourself then. After all you are
claiming to be laughing! And we are all laughing at you. So, I think
in this case there is safety in numbers.
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I don't feel ignorant, because it is not I that just recently managed
to pass the CCNA after supposedly teaching classes for a semester. As
I said before, now I know why so many people complain about the
quality of the NetAcad, lol.
yes, for the same reason that The insanes tell about themselves that are not
mad.
However where are those people which complain about quality?
I ever heard about this. In italian Forum we think the exact contrary.....
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Who is "we"? Those that pretend to be capable instructors that need
braindumps for their classes?
| Quote: | For your Knowledge......Microsoft until 2001 done the same.........so you
will be happy to know this.
In 2000 I was teaching Microsoft courses for which i wasn't
certificate.......and now is not so different.
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The problem is that Microsoft doesn't have a link on their site
stating that you have to be a MCSE to teach MCSE classes.
| Quote: | So,Please go laughing on another place.........
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Another place?
--Bernie |
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Bernie
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2003 7:24 pm Post subject: Re: Most real Questions |
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On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 13:25:34 GMT, "BOBO" <boboland@tin.it> wrote:
| Quote: | Because often certification does not make a good instructor. There are many
certificate people that know only the questions and don't know how put their
hands on a console cable.
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Um, being an instructor means that AT MINIMUM you should be able to
pass the same competency exam that your students will be asked to
pass. So you are saying you don't need to be able to answer the CCNA
questions that you can just be a clueless lecturer that hands out
braindumps to students. But we already knew that about you didn't we,
lol.
So how come it took you 6 months to pass the CCNA after you were
teaching classes?
| Quote: | If you are an instructor, you have only to prove your skiil where you work
for, and no certifications can do it. However a minimal certification often
is required.
Now To be a MCT you need MCSE certification, wich is not certainly the CCNA.
Cisco need to pass an instructor Course. In My class we had to pass 40 and
more exams in 10 days of total course and a Final Exam much similar to CCNA.
We had also to prove aur skill simulating 3 lessons on CCNA program.
If it is no enough, you can go to a Cisco Catalog Course with you 2000 $ and
have a CCIE.
However if you want to compare my knowledge with you, I will be always
ready.
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I'm ready too. Look through the archives of this group for a post
from a CCIE name Hansang stating that he saves my posts and prints
them off to learn things from me... Ooops, did someone swallow thier
tongue?
--Bernie |
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Bernie
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2003 7:27 pm Post subject: Re: Most real Questions |
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On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 09:56:21 GMT, "BOBO" <boboland@tin.it> wrote:
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Ummm, yeah. Come in where? Can you tell me what "Accesso negato"
means? LOL! Oh, I get it, I can't log into the real Cisco academy
because you want me to log into the secret academy where uncertified
people like yourself are allowed to teach and hand out braindumps to
students, lol.
I told you. You are very stupid. Someone get the occunt before you.
If you are not able to insert User ID and password, please don't work in It.
Just work in TI (terrible Idiots).
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Ok, lets assume you did create an account. What does that prove. Now
think very clearly for the first time in this thread...what does it
prove beyond a resonable doubt. It could prove that you are a
clerical worker, or that your best friend is a instructor, or your
daddy is an instructor. You still have to prove that you are a
teacher, because many have access to create accounts.
So I think you are the one feeling stupid if you think you have proven
anything around here, lol.
Or a clerical worker, lol. Whatever. So lets agree on this. In your
mind, you are a great CCNA instructor who just passed two weeks ago.
In out mind you are a pathetic instructor that just got up to speed
about six months ago on Cisco because your company wanted to host a
NetAcad, lol.
--Bernie |
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Bernie
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2003 7:43 pm Post subject: Re: Most real Questions |
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On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 13:41:14 GMT, "BOBO" <boboland@tin.it> wrote:
| Quote: | Here a corse in an official Cisco training center cost about 2000$.
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For the cost of the $2000, you also get copies of blackmarket CCIE lab
books, that is copies of the *real* exam, courtesy of the photocopy
machines at the school operated by Certified Braindump Copying
Specialists that are employed at that school.
I am sure that they also have non-CCIEs teaching the course, because
who cares what the instructor knows as long as they are good
lecturers, lol. Actually you will be taught by someone who is "a
CCIE" that hasn't passed the lab yet (because it is normal for Cisco
to allow you two years to complete the requirements). In the mean
time they can use the title during the normal two year probation
period.
--Bernie |
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BOBO
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2003 7:51 pm Post subject: Re: Most real Questions |
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I said CCNA course. To teach in an official course, CCIE is requested for
instructors by Cisco.
Dou you understand now? |
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BOBO
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2003 7:55 pm Post subject: Re: Most real Questions |
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"Bernie" <Bernie@weekend.com> wrote in message
news:a4jnivkshfnud3gc6djltlcokrkdak4r8n@4ax.com...
| Quote: | On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 13:41:14 GMT, "BOBO" <boboland@tin.it> wrote:
Here a corse in an official Cisco training center cost about 2000$.
For the cost of the $2000, you also get copies of blackmarket CCIE lab
books, that is copies of the *real* exam, courtesy of the photocopy
machines at the school operated by Certified Braindump Copying
Specialists that are employed at that school.
I am sure that they also have non-CCIEs teaching the course, because
who cares what the instructor knows as long as they are good
lecturers, lol. Actually you will be taught by someone who is "a
CCIE" that hasn't passed the lab yet (because it is normal for Cisco
to allow you two years to complete the requirements). In the mean
time they can use the title during the normal two year probation
period.
--Bernie
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Please read the precedent post. So you feel Ignorant once more. |
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Bernie
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2003 7:56 pm Post subject: Re: Most real Questions |
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On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 15:04:02 +0200, "Ceyko" <spam@spam.com> wrote:
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For your Knowledge......Microsoft until 2001 done the same.........so you
will be happy to know this.
In 2000 I was teaching Microsoft courses for which i wasn't
certificate.......and now is not so different.
So,Please go laughing on another place.........
Hence me always training myself. Why should I PAY to have a non-expert
training me when I can do it myself. At least then I only have myself to
blame. :)
Ceyko
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EXACTLY! There was a day when you could count on an IT course being
taught by industry experts. Now, you get taught by career teachers
that have never worked on a live network in the past ten years, and
can't answer questions that aren't directly addressed in the
curriculum they are reading from.
Bobo is a perfect example of this new trend among instructors. If he
is a NetAcad instructor, we all know that he just recently became
familiar with Cisco by virtue of the instructor bootcamp, and even
though he taught a semester, he still wasn't even a CCNA. What a
joke! Nope, no grizzled veterans teaching CCNA classes anymore, just
people that went through a bootcamp a few months prior.
Then there is the other aspect of a trainer being a
jack-of-all-trades, master of none. Ok, I teach Cisco this week, MS
next week, the week after that I will be teaching WAN switch courses,
and after that, I will be teaching a class on PBX's, and after that a
class on VoIP. What would that make me? Someone who has little depth
of knowledge but maybe someone that can read from the printed course
curriculum. I've seen a load of instructors that fit this mold. Oh,
yeah, I could puff my chest out and say "I AM A TRAINER" like others
are supposed to be impressed by that. I find it amusing, because most
trainers are far less competent than those in the field, especially
those trainers that just came up to speed themselves, lol.
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