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How to make a 2000 member server the DC in a Windows NT 4.0

 
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Stevo
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 1:36 pm    Post subject: How to make a 2000 member server the DC in a Windows NT 4.0 Reply with quote

Hi There,

We currently have one Windows 4.0 NT serever which is currently the
PDC but also runs Exchange 5.5 with a Windows 2000 member server. We
want to make the Windows 2000 server the DC, what is the best way
forward to upgrading The Windows 2000 server, we don't have the option
of reinstalling any of the two servers, as they are running critical
apps
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Don Wilwol
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 3:27 pm    Post subject: Re: How to make a 2000 member server the DC in a Windows NT Reply with quote

You can not make a Windows 2000 a domain controller on an NT 4 domain. An NT
4 domain needs to be upgraded to Active Directory, thus upgrading the
Environment.

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dw
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"Stevo" <cstevenson@nhs.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
Hi There,

We currently have one Windows 4.0 NT serever which is currently the
PDC but also runs Exchange 5.5 with a Windows 2000 member server. We
want to make the Windows 2000 server the DC, what is the best way
forward to upgrading The Windows 2000 server, we don't have the option
of reinstalling any of the two servers, as they are running critical
apps
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wickydog
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 5:00 pm    Post subject: Re: How to make a 2000 member server the DC in a Windows NT Reply with quote

You can perform a in place upgrade for the Windows NT Domain. To do that, you
can using a PDC to do a upgrade, the entire domain information will be retain
after the upgrade.

I suggested you can using a temporary machine to do a upgrade to do a trial
run. Install this temp DC into Windows NT BDC, separate the environment and
promote it as PDC, then have a trial on the testing environment.

Sufficient planning should be done before upgrade, such as Hardware checking
to see if it can compliance with Windows 2000/2003, software compability test
etc.

Thanks and Regards
Jacky


"Don Wilwol" wrote:

Quote:
You can not make a Windows 2000 a domain controller on an NT 4 domain. An NT
4 domain needs to be upgraded to Active Directory, thus upgrading the
Environment.

--
--------
Hope It Helps!

dw
_______________________________
Don Wilwol
Distributed Application Technologies.
dwilwol(DELETE)@datbusiness.com
www.AtTheDataCenter.com (personal website)
www.skysphere.com (hosting available)
"Stevo" <cstevenson@nhs.net> wrote in message
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Hi There,

We currently have one Windows 4.0 NT serever which is currently the
PDC but also runs Exchange 5.5 with a Windows 2000 member server. We
want to make the Windows 2000 server the DC, what is the best way
forward to upgrading The Windows 2000 server, we don't have the option
of reinstalling any of the two servers, as they are running critical
apps



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Stevo
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 5:51 pm    Post subject: Re: How to make a 2000 member server the DC in a Windows NT Reply with quote

Hi,

The current box which is running the exchange 5.5 and Windows NT 4.0
won't support an upgrade to Windows 2000 Server, I have got a Temp
server I can use. I was thinking of installing Windows NT 4.0 temp
server promote to PDC then perform upgrade to Windows 2000 AD, run
dcpromo and promote the existing Windows 2000 Server to a DC then
remove the temp server from the domain leaving the Windows NT 4.0 as a
BDC
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Herb Martin
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 6:45 pm    Post subject: Re: How to make a 2000 member server the DC in a Windows NT Reply with quote

You cannot actually do what your subject line says, but your
method below is the way to accomplish the goal...

"Stevo" <cstevenson@nhs.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
Hi,

The current box which is running the exchange 5.5 and Windows NT 4.0
won't support an upgrade to Windows 2000 Server, I have got a Temp
server I can use. I was thinking of installing Windows NT 4.0 temp
server promote to PDC then perform upgrade to Windows 2000 AD, run
dcpromo and promote the existing Windows 2000 Server to a DC then
remove the temp server from the domain leaving the Windows NT 4.0 as a
BDC

Right. You must install an NT-BDC, promote to PDC, and
upgrade it if your current PDC doesn't support Windows 2000/2003.

Once you have the domain upgraded to Active Directory, you
can freely promote and demote Windows 2000+ Server to and
from DCs (as long as you always keep at least one of them.)

You can keep or remove the BDCs (including the old PDC) as
well.

Another trick is to move your NT-PDC to "new hardware" by
either moving the hard drive or doing a backup and restore and
then doing the promotion.



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Jorge de Almeida Pinto [M
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 11:22 pm    Post subject: Re: How to make a 2000 member server the DC in a Windows NT Reply with quote

see:
http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/archive/2006/05/01/912.aspx

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Cheers,
(HOPEFULLY THIS INFORMATION HELPS YOU!)

# Jorge de Almeida Pinto # MVP Windows Server - Directory Services

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"Stevo" <cstevenson@nhs.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
Hi There,

We currently have one Windows 4.0 NT serever which is currently the
PDC but also runs Exchange 5.5 with a Windows 2000 member server. We
want to make the Windows 2000 server the DC, what is the best way
forward to upgrading The Windows 2000 server, we don't have the option
of reinstalling any of the two servers, as they are running critical
apps
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Jorge Silva
Guest





PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 5:14 am    Post subject: Re: How to make a 2000 member server the DC in a Windows NT Reply with quote

Hi

Informative Sites:
Migrating from Windows NT Server 4.0 to Windows Server 2003

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=e92cf6a0-76f0-4e25-8de0-19544062a6e6&DisplayLang=en
Upgrading from Windows NT Server 4.0
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/upgrading/nt4/default.mspx

How to Upgrade from Windows NT Server 4.0

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/upgrading/nt4/howto/default.mspx

Best Practice Active Directory Design for Managing Windows Networks

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/technologies/activedirectory/plan/bpaddsgn.mspx#E1AAG

Microsoft File Server Migration Toolkit

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/upgrading/nt4/tooldocs/msfsc.mspx





Considerations:

- Install the latest service pack.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads

- Check Hardware.

Windows Catalog and HCL

http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/hcl/default.mspx

Active Directory Sizer

http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/reskit/tools/new/adsizer-o.asp

- Windows Application Compatibility

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows/appcompatibility/default.mspx

- Document everything network related (users, groups, permissions,
printers,etc).

Upgrade or migrate?

Reasons to Upgrade

Especially for small organizations, the ease of an upgrade rather than a new
installation can make sense. Generally, with an upgrade, configuration is
simpler, and your existing users, settings, groups, rights, and permissions
are retained. Also, with an upgrade, you do not need to re-install files and
applications.

Reasons to Migrate

There are good reasons to migrate rather than upgrade-especially when
dealing with large organizations. If you want to practice careful
configuration management, for example, for a server where high availability
is important, you might want to perform a new installation on that server
instead of an upgrade. This is especially true for servers on which the
operating system has been upgraded several times in the past.

Upgrading Windows NT 4.0 Domains to Windows Server 2003 Active Directory

http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/en/Library/b170bdc5-ba55-4184-8a8f-acb7705ff04a1033.mspx

Migrating Windows NT Server 4.0 Domains to Windows Server 2003 Active
Directory

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/whyupgrade/nt4/nt4domtoad.mspx

Active Directory Migration Tool v.2.0

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=788975b1-5849-4707-9817-8c9773c25c6c&DisplayLang=en



Planning:

- Failover.

* Backup the Servers.

* Take at least one BDC Offline (In case of UPGRADE FAILURE you always can
promote it to a PDC). The only drawback to this method is that all changes
that were made while the safe BDC was offline are lost. To minimize this
loss, you could periodically turn the safe BDC on and off (when the domain
is in a stable state) during the upgrade process, to update its safe copy of
the directory.

To convert the BDC to a PDC: Start -> Programs -> Administrative Tools ->
Server Manager -> Select the BDC, then go to the Computer Menu -> choose
Promote to primary Domain Controller.

* Make sure that the Hardware and apps meets the requirements.

* Make sure that all Apps installed are compatible with W2K3 and don't cause
problems with the upgrade process or pos upgrade process.

* Run from command prompt:

Cdsource\I386\winnt32.exe /checkupgradeonly



- Before Upgrade:

* You can install a new computer (more powerful) make it a BDC, SYNCRONIZE
and promote it to PDC and them perform the upgrade on the new PDC.

* Windows 2000/XP always prefer Kerberos authentication, so if the newly
upgraded NT4 to Windows 2003 goes down (Offline), the client machines won't
be able to authenticate in the domain.

* If this is the case, before upgrade the NT.4 PDC, make the necessary
changes on the registry (NT4Emulator). If the NT4Emulator is configured on
the newly PDC, and you want o upgrade the Existent BDCs, you also need to
create a registry entry on the BDCs (NeutralizeNT4Emulator) before the
upgrade.

Check:

Windows 2000-based clients connect only to the domain controller that was
upgraded from Windows NT 4.0 in a mixed-mode domain

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=284937

How to prevent overloading on the first domain controller during domain
upgrade

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/298713/

Once that all domain controllers are upgraded, remove the registry settings
created in the previous steps.

Note: This sometimes may not need: E.g - if all existent BDCs will be sun
upgraded to Windows 2003.



- Dns Planning:

Prior to beginning the upgrade from Windows NT Server 4.0 to the Windows
Server 2003 Active Directory service, ensure that you have designed a DNS
and Active Directory namespace and have either configured DNS servers or are
planning to have the Active Directory Installation Wizard automatically
install the DNS service on the domain controller.

Active Directory is integrated with DNS in the following ways:

Active Directory and DNS have the same hierarchical structure. Although
separate and implemented differently for different purposes, an
organization's namespace for DNS and Active Directory have an identical
structure. For example, microsoft.com is both a DNS domain and an Active
Directory domain.

DNS zones can be stored in Active Directory. If you are using the Windows
Server DNS service, primary zone files can be stored in Active Directory for
replication to other Active Directory domain controllers.

Active Directory uses DNS as a locator service, resolving Active Directory
domain, site, and service names to an IP address. To log on to an Active
Directory domain, an Active Directory client queries its configured DNS
server for the IP address of the Lightweight Directory Access Protocol
(LDAP) service running on a domain controller for a specified domain.

While Active Directory is integrated with DNS and they share the same
namespace structure, it is important to distinguish the basic difference
between them:

DNS is a name resolution service. DNS clients send DNS name queries to their
configured DNS server. The DNS server receives the name query and either
resolves the name query through locally stored files or consults another DNS
server for resolution. DNS does not require Active Directory to function.

Active Directory is a directory service. Active Directory provides an
information repository and services to make information available to users
and applications. Active Directory clients send queries to Active Directory
servers using LDAP. In order to locate an Active Directory server, an Active
Directory client queries DNS. Active Directory requires DNS to function.

If use BIND DNS servers Make sure that you have BIND 8.1.2

- Supports: Srv records, Dynamic Updates, Doesn't Support Secure
Dynamic Updates (this is one disadvantage over the MS Dns server Servers,
and represents security issues).

- Create Primary Zone

If Use 2003 DNS

* Create Primary Zone

* You can use an pre existent Dns or you can create it during the upgrade
process.

* Convert to AD-Integrated.

* NetDiag /fix (This is an extra measure, to register the necessary dns
records).

Check:

Troubleshooting DNS

http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/en/Library/de2aa69d-1155-4dc9-a651-e8362f6a81c81033.mspx



How to Verify the Creation of SRV Records for a Domain Controller

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=241515



Verify DNS server responsiveness using the nslookup command

http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/en/Library/f8761f04-d665-4507-9509-ebb92bbb66ef1033.mspx



- The Upgrade.

* Check if you're on the PDC -> Start -> Programs -> Administrative Tools ->
Server Manager.

Right click on Network Neighborhood -> check the name.

Run from command prompt:

Cdsource\I386\winnt32

* The first server running Windows NT Server 4.0 that you must upgrade is
the primary domain controller (PDC), then you upgrade all remaining BDCs. To
check if you're on the PDC: Start -> Programs -> Administrative Tools ->
Server Manager.

Check:

How To Upgrade a Windows NT 4.0-Based PDC to a Windows Server 2003-Based
Domain Controller
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=326209

If you don't have windows 2000 (Only NT4 and Windows 2003) in the domain
choose the FFL (Forest Functional Level) Windows 2003 interim.

* Make sure that your DCs Dns properties point to Right Dns server (usually
the Dc is also a Dns server so it must point to itself).

* Once you have upgraded the Windows NT Server 4.0 and earlier PDC, you can
proceed to upgrade all remaining BDCs.

* Make sure that you have 1 GC per site (GCs are needed unless: you only
have one domain, or the DFL is prior to Windows 2000 or Windows 2003).

* Make sure that network clients point to the Network Dns server only
(Usually the DC).

* If everything is ok, then and if all DCs are already Windows 2003, now it's
time to remove the registry entries (NT4Emulator, NeutralizeNT4Emulator),
and make the DFL and FFL windows 2003.

Verifying Active Directory Installation

http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/en/Library/3d157c1a-5c80-4947-ba8b-a02e5fb1dada1033.mspx


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I hop that helps

Good Luck
Jorge Silva
MCSA
Systems Administrator





"Stevo" <cstevenson@nhs.net> wrote in message
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Hi There,

We currently have one Windows 4.0 NT serever which is currently the
PDC but also runs Exchange 5.5 with a Windows 2000 member server. We
want to make the Windows 2000 server the DC, what is the best way
forward to upgrading The Windows 2000 server, we don't have the option
of reinstalling any of the two servers, as they are running critical
apps
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