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dotnetnoob Guest
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Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:10 am Post subject: is MS cert. still paper cert.? |
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i just got my CS degree this year and currently working as programer. is MCSD
worth the time and money to study for? i'll like to earn a cert. that can
help me improve my skill. (i'm programing in VB.net 2.0) is MS cert. still
consider paper cert? did it help you learn programing and program in MS's
prodcut?
why so many different MS cert. for developer? you got
MCSD/MCAD/MCTS/MCPD...jeebus, which one should i take? i'll like to learn the
latest that mean .Net 2.0 so do i just go for the MCPD or what?
what happen when .Net 3.0 is release? Do i need to retake all the exam or
can i just take a simple exam to upgrade my skillset to .Net 3?
Can someone comment on MS cert.'s worth and which cert. should i take for
..Net 2.0?
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CaffieneRush Guest
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Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:10 am Post subject: Re: is MS cert. still paper cert.? |
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Ideally the MC** certifications should be a reflection of the skills
you possess in real life.
If you're programming in VB.Net 2.0 (congratulations on getting a job
in this market by the way) then you should go for MCPD certification.
Unless, of course, you've already started on the MCAD/MCSD, in which
case you should finish that cert and then upgrade to MCPD.
As for .NET 3.0. There seems to be a consensus here that .NET 3.0 =
..NET 2.0 (the runtime and base libraries would remain the same) +
WinFX. Therefore getting a .NET 3.0 certification would most likely
invole getting a .NET 2.0 cert MCPD + exam(s) on the WinFX libraries
(ie. WCF, WPF, WF and WCS).
Regards,
Andy
dotnetnoob wrote:
| Quote: | i just got my CS degree this year and currently working as programer. is MCSD
worth the time and money to study for? i'll like to earn a cert. that can
help me improve my skill. (i'm programing in VB.net 2.0) is MS cert. still
consider paper cert? did it help you learn programing and program in MS's
prodcut?
why so many different MS cert. for developer? you got
MCSD/MCAD/MCTS/MCPD...jeebus, which one should i take? i'll like to learn the
latest that mean .Net 2.0 so do i just go for the MCPD or what?
what happen when .Net 3.0 is release? Do i need to retake all the exam or
can i just take a simple exam to upgrade my skillset to .Net 3?
Can someone comment on MS cert.'s worth and which cert. should i take for
.Net 2.0?
thank |
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Bob Guest
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Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:10 pm Post subject: Re: is MS cert. still paper cert.? |
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My take on the whole certification thing is that by undertaking the
certification you are exposing yourself to what the technology is capable of
doing. The projects I have worked on have tended to be designed by people
who have not necessarily done the certification and so have done things "the
old way" instead of "the new way". Getting certified shows that if you are
able to design an application then you should be able to use the latest
techniques. Having said that, there is no exam for the "Enterprise
Library".
Don't worry about the MSCD in .Net, it covers .Net 1.1. Go for the latest
Technical Specialist and Professional Developer exams.
"dotnetnoob" <dotnetnoob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CE8401ED-7F52-440A-843F-0E17C4F8224A@microsoft.com...
| Quote: | i just got my CS degree this year and currently working as programer. is
MCSD
worth the time and money to study for? i'll like to earn a cert. that can
help me improve my skill. (i'm programing in VB.net 2.0) is MS cert. still
consider paper cert? did it help you learn programing and program in MS's
prodcut?
why so many different MS cert. for developer? you got
MCSD/MCAD/MCTS/MCPD...jeebus, which one should i take? i'll like to learn
the
latest that mean .Net 2.0 so do i just go for the MCPD or what?
what happen when .Net 3.0 is release? Do i need to retake all the exam or
can i just take a simple exam to upgrade my skillset to .Net 3?
Can someone comment on MS cert.'s worth and which cert. should i take for
.Net 2.0?
thank |
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dotnetnoob Guest
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:21 am Post subject: Re: is MS cert. still paper cert.? |
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the MCPD only require 3 exams for web or windows developer, is that right? i
don't quite understand MS requirement...all these cert. by MS is making me
dizzy.
"Bob" wrote:
| Quote: | My take on the whole certification thing is that by undertaking the
certification you are exposing yourself to what the technology is capable of
doing. The projects I have worked on have tended to be designed by people
who have not necessarily done the certification and so have done things "the
old way" instead of "the new way". Getting certified shows that if you are
able to design an application then you should be able to use the latest
techniques. Having said that, there is no exam for the "Enterprise
Library".
Don't worry about the MSCD in .Net, it covers .Net 1.1. Go for the latest
Technical Specialist and Professional Developer exams.
"dotnetnoob" <dotnetnoob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CE8401ED-7F52-440A-843F-0E17C4F8224A@microsoft.com...
i just got my CS degree this year and currently working as programer. is
MCSD
worth the time and money to study for? i'll like to earn a cert. that can
help me improve my skill. (i'm programing in VB.net 2.0) is MS cert. still
consider paper cert? did it help you learn programing and program in MS's
prodcut?
why so many different MS cert. for developer? you got
MCSD/MCAD/MCTS/MCPD...jeebus, which one should i take? i'll like to learn
the
latest that mean .Net 2.0 so do i just go for the MCPD or what?
what happen when .Net 3.0 is release? Do i need to retake all the exam or
can i just take a simple exam to upgrade my skillset to .Net 3?
Can someone comment on MS cert.'s worth and which cert. should i take for
.Net 2.0?
thank
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 8:11 am Post subject: Re: is MS cert. still paper cert.? |
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dotnetnoob wrote:
| Quote: | the MCPD only require 3 exams for web or windows developer, is that right? i
don't quite understand MS requirement...all these cert. by MS is making me
dizzy.
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Not wishing to be nasty, but if you are really finding the
certifications that complicated to understand then you should quit the
IT world now and take up something else ;-)
Go to the Microsoft site and look through it carefully, it really isn't
that complicated.
If your primary area of work is .Net 1.1 (this is Visual Studio 2003,
in case you are unsure), then pursue MCSD.Net: (you will achieve MCAD
on the way)
http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcsd/default.asp
If your primary area of work is .Net 2 (which is what you say in your
OP) then pursue the new path. You don't say what type of development
you are doing, whether it is windows or web. Just choose the
appropriate track from here:
http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcpd/
Ignore the Technical Specialist qualification and concentrate on the
Professional Developer. You will achieve the technical specialist exam
on the way to Professional Developer (which is why I say ignore it).
Choose the one (Web or Windows) most appropriate to what you do in your
day job. Once you have that then you can look at doing the other one,
and also eventually getting up to Enterprise.
I hope this helps, all the new certs have complicated things but it is
a move in the correct direction. If you look carefully at the links
above you will see that there is crossover between all of the
certifications, 70-536 is common to them all and is also the core exam
so I would suggest you did that first:
http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-536.asp
Hope this helps,
Neil |
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