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SuperCoder
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 Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 6:03 pm Post subject: MCPD Question |
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Someone in this newsgroup told me that MCPD Enterprise comprises of MCPD web
and MCPD Windows.
But I didnt find any info about it on MS website. Can anyone give me the
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| Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 8:11 pm Post subject: Re: MCPD Question |
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SuperCoder wrote:
| Quote: | Someone in this newsgroup told me that MCPD Enterprise comprises of MCPD web
and MCPD Windows.
But I didnt find any info about it on MS website. Can anyone give me the
link to that.
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Nah, it isn't like that. Well, it sort of is, but it isn't ;-)
If you are starting from scratch then you have to do the Web, Win and
distributed apps TECHNOLOGY SPECIALIST exams. Then you do the
Enterprise exam and you get MCPD Enterprise.
However, if you upgrade from MCSD.Net then when you have passed the
first upgrade exam then you get the two you mention (except they are TS
not PD Quals), that is detailed here:
http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-553.asp
When you pass the second one then you get the MCPD Enterprise and the
Dist Apps tech specialist.
So you end up with 3 tech specialist and ent mcpd. I don't think you
get the other PD quals, it is kinda implicit.
You know what, I think I am confused now as well, I take back a joke I
made in an earlier post!!!
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Cerebrus
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| Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:10 pm Post subject: Re: MCPD Question |
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| MCPD Enterprise = MCSD + 70-553 + 70-554 |
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SuperCoder
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| Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:10 pm Post subject: Re: MCPD Question |
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So if I wanna become MCPD win and web, I've to take two more exam after my
MCSD/MCAD?
Man, I hope, there was something which would be granddaddy of all, so it
could combine the whole thing. MCPD web+win+enterprise
"Cerebrus" <zorg007@sify.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | MCPD Enterprise = MCSD + 70-553 + 70-554
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Simon Hart
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| Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:48 pm Post subject: Re: MCPD Question |
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Did you know there is now a microsoft.public.cert.developer.mcpd newsgroup.
I believe what you understand is true.
See if this helps:
http://vishaljoshi.blogspot.com/2006/04/dynamics-of-vs-2005-upgrade-exams.html
Regards
Simon.
"SuperCoder" <dontspam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Someone in this newsgroup told me that MCPD Enterprise comprises of MCPD
web and MCPD Windows.
But I didnt find any info about it on MS website. Can anyone give me the
link to that.
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Guest
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| Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:10 am Post subject: Re: MCPD Question |
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SuperCoder wrote:
| Quote: | So if I wanna become MCPD win and web, I've to take two more exam after my
MCSD/MCAD?
Man, I hope, there was something which would be granddaddy of all, so it
could combine the whole thing. MCPD web+win+enterprise
"Cerebrus" <zorg007@sify.com> wrote in message
news:1151447131.014989.118870@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
MCPD Enterprise = MCSD + 70-553 + 70-554
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MCPD Enterprise IS the grandaddy. You get that and you have covered
everything.
Neil |
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Rob Farley
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| Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:10 am Post subject: Re: MCPD Question |
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No, it's not. You can be MCPD-EAD and not have Web/Win.
Read my comment at
http://vishaljoshi.blogspot.com/2006/04/dynamics-of-vs-2005-upgrade-exams.html
Rob
<neil.weller@gmail.com> wrote in message
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SuperCoder wrote:
So if I wanna become MCPD win and web, I've to take two more exam after
my
MCSD/MCAD?
Man, I hope, there was something which would be granddaddy of all, so it
could combine the whole thing. MCPD web+win+enterprise
"Cerebrus" <zorg007@sify.com> wrote in message
news:1151447131.014989.118870@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
MCPD Enterprise = MCSD + 70-553 + 70-554
MCPD Enterprise IS the grandaddy. You get that and you have covered
everything.
Neil
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| Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:10 am Post subject: Re: MCPD Question |
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SuperCoder wrote:
| Quote: | Unofficially you might have covered everything, but if u wanna get MCPD
win+web, you still have to give 2 exam. So it should be something different,
otherwise, MS would have given MCPD win+web certificate upon completion of
MCPD enterprise.
Checked the course prescribed books, but they MCPD enterprise looks like, it
has book from both the courses.
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That is why I thought it covered both. The upgrade exam covers
windows, web, WSE, XML etc. Pretty much everything that is in the
other two.
I think they need to make this clearer if we don't get it then what
chance have employers...
Neil |
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Cerebrus
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| Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:10 am Post subject: Re: MCPD Question |
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Neil wrote :
| Quote: | MCPD Enterprise IS the grandaddy. You get that and you have covered
everything.
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Yes, I agree.
Rob Farley wrote:
| Quote: | No, it's not. You can be MCPD-EAD and not have Web/Win.
Read my comment at [link]
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You are right, Rob. But my point here is that the MCPD:EAD
certification *conceptually* encompasses both the MCPD:Windows And
MCPD:Web. It does not matter if the exams are different.
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The Microsoft Certified Professional Developer: Enterprise Applications
Developer (MCPD: Enterprise Applications Developer) credential
demonstrates that you have the comprehensive skills that are required
to build n-tier solutions that target both Web and rich-client user
experiences.
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Your comment at the mentioned link is : "MCPD:EAD = 553 + 554, but this
won't include MCPD:Web or MCPD:Win".
Why would you want to be all three, when the MCPD:EAD means that you
are proficient at both Windows and Web apps.
Just my 2c
Regards,
Cerebrus. |
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SuperCoder
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| Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:10 am Post subject: Re: MCPD Question |
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| Quote: | I think they need to make this clearer if we don't get it then what
chance have employers...
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Thats true
<neil.weller@gmail.com> wrote in message
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SuperCoder wrote:
Unofficially you might have covered everything, but if u wanna get MCPD
win+web, you still have to give 2 exam. So it should be something
different,
otherwise, MS would have given MCPD win+web certificate upon completion
of
MCPD enterprise.
Checked the course prescribed books, but they MCPD enterprise looks like,
it
has book from both the courses.
That is why I thought it covered both. The upgrade exam covers
windows, web, WSE, XML etc. Pretty much everything that is in the
other two.
I think they need to make this clearer if we don't get it then what
chance have employers...
Neil
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SuperCoder
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| Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:10 am Post subject: Re: MCPD Question |
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Unofficially you might have covered everything, but if u wanna get MCPD
win+web, you still have to give 2 exam. So it should be something different,
otherwise, MS would have given MCPD win+web certificate upon completion of
MCPD enterprise.
Checked the course prescribed books, but they MCPD enterprise looks like, it
has book from both the courses.
<neil.weller@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1151475330.172640.246270@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
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SuperCoder wrote:
So if I wanna become MCPD win and web, I've to take two more exam after
my
MCSD/MCAD?
Man, I hope, there was something which would be granddaddy of all, so it
could combine the whole thing. MCPD web+win+enterprise
"Cerebrus" <zorg007@sify.com> wrote in message
news:1151447131.014989.118870@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
MCPD Enterprise = MCSD + 70-553 + 70-554
MCPD Enterprise IS the grandaddy. You get that and you have covered
everything.
Neil
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SuperCoder
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| Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 4:10 pm Post subject: Re: MCPD Question |
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Just for the sake of certification. If MCPD:Enterprise covered from both
thing, MS would have given you MCPD win + web upon completion as well, but
they're not. So that means there must be slight difference. I'm not sure,
but MS knows it better :p
"Cerebrus" <zorg007@sify.com> wrote in message
news:1151485678.191567.286190@x69g2000cwx.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | Neil wrote :
MCPD Enterprise IS the grandaddy. You get that and you have covered
everything.
Yes, I agree.
Rob Farley wrote:
No, it's not. You can be MCPD-EAD and not have Web/Win.
Read my comment at [link]
You are right, Rob. But my point here is that the MCPD:EAD
certification *conceptually* encompasses both the MCPD:Windows And
MCPD:Web. It does not matter if the exams are different.
From the MS Site :
//
The Microsoft Certified Professional Developer: Enterprise Applications
Developer (MCPD: Enterprise Applications Developer) credential
demonstrates that you have the comprehensive skills that are required
to build n-tier solutions that target both Web and rich-client user
experiences.
\\
Your comment at the mentioned link is : "MCPD:EAD = 553 + 554, but this
won't include MCPD:Web or MCPD:Win".
Why would you want to be all three, when the MCPD:EAD means that you
are proficient at both Windows and Web apps.
Just my 2c
Regards,
Cerebrus.
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CodeJunky22
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| Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:10 pm Post subject: RE: MCPD Question |
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I'm pretty sure exam 70-553 gives you TS:Web Applications and TS:Windows
Applications, exam 70-554 gives you TS:Distributed Applications.
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Mike MCAD
"SuperCoder" wrote:
| Quote: | Someone in this newsgroup told me that MCPD Enterprise comprises of MCPD web
and MCPD Windows.
But I didnt find any info about it on MS website. Can anyone give me the
link to that.
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Gorm Braarvig
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| Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 11:10 pm Post subject: Re: MCPD Question |
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"SuperCoder" <dontspam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ONuSP6gmGHA.492@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| Quote: | Someone in this newsgroup told me that MCPD Enterprise comprises of MCPD
web and MCPD Windows.
But I didnt find any info about it on MS website. Can anyone give me the
link to that.
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http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcpd/default.asp
547 and 548 not req? |
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CaffieneRush
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| Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 10:10 pm Post subject: Re: MCPD Question |
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http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-553.asp
Credit Toward Certification
When you pass Exam 70-553: UPGRADE: MCSD Microsoft .NET Skills to MCPD
Enterprise Application Developer by Using the Microsoft .NET Framework:
Part 1, you earn credit toward the following certifications:
* Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist: .NET Framework 2.0 Web
Applications
* Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist: .NET Framework 2.0
Windows Applications
And just in case you were wondering about 554.
http://www.microsoft.com/learning/exams/70-554.asp
Credit Toward Certification
When you pass Exam 70-554: UPGRADE: MCSD Microsoft .NET Skills to MCPD
Enterprise Application Developer by Using the Microsoft .NET Framework:
Part 2, you earn credit toward the following certifications:
* Microsoft Certified Professional Developer: Enterprise
Applications Developer
* Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist: .NET Framework 2.0
Distributed Applications
Regards,
Andy
SuperCoder wrote:
| Quote: | Someone in this newsgroup told me that MCPD Enterprise comprises of MCPD web
and MCPD Windows.
But I didnt find any info about it on MS website. Can anyone give me the
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