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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:55 pm Post subject: In response to Setfocus.com; The MCSD delusion |
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For your review: http://www.setfocus.com
I can pick up development languages on my own. Learning is not at all the problem.
The problem is obtaining and keeping a long term position where I can gain experience and get "ahead" of the learning curve.
The true test of any training, including Setfocus.com, is how long the trainee has continuous employment in a premium paying type of job. Could you guarantee a year? How about two years or three. It would be a holy grail and a virtual promised land, milk and honey and Saab 9-3s galore.
On the contrary, I am about to go bankrupt because I took a position in New Jersey for even less pay than my first job hoping to jump-start my ..NET career and get into the higher paying arena. I paid at least $300 a month in gas to get to work. And, the employers today are constantly figuring out new ways to cut into programmer wages, third-party companies being the first idea and then outsourcing to India and now China (since they signed an agreement to more actively reduce software piracy) another, and would you believe it, having employees to share in paying business related expenses. Yes, it really happened ... to me.
My first job in software was "fun". Because I was doing something new and it felt like very few people had the kind of talent to do the work. Now, I know better! Anybody with a pulse can do programming. So, as far as economic theory goes, supply is far outpacing demand.
I obtained my MCSD on .NET because in my mind, it would mean that I had finally reached the "high ground" above the flood in the programming world. Not so fast my .NET friend. I really did learn how to do this stuff. And, I'm a very diligent worker. But, I can read the writing on the wall, especially since it is in bold face, colored red, in italics and sized 500 point, you should have become a doctor. The medical field is booming. The baby boomers are the new gold, and medical school is your shovel.
All I ever wanted was a Saab 9-3, a two car garage and big backyard to have fun. What happened?
Shucks!
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:13 am Post subject: Re: In response to Setfocus.com; The MCSD delusion |
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| Quote: | All I ever wanted was a Saab 9-3, a two car garage and big backyard to have fun.
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Is that all?
Please don't tell me that you got your dream car and house right after
getting your first .Net job.
And what makes you think the doctors labor market is any different from
the developers labor market? Sure the 'work' cannot be sent overseas
but do you think that HMOs, hospitals and clinics cannot import foreign
doctors to address the growing heathcare demand?
So think before you rush off to get your next 'shovel' or you'll be
crying at your local medical newsgroup in a few years time about
overseas doctors, low pay and high debt.
classified public wrote:
| Quote: | For your review: http://www.setfocus.com
I can pick up development languages on my own. Learning is not at all the problem.
The problem is obtaining and keeping a long term position where I can gain experience and get "ahead" of the learning curve.
The true test of any training, including Setfocus.com, is how long the trainee has continuous employment in a premium paying type of job. Could you guarantee a year? How about two years or three. It would be a holy grail and a virtual promised land, milk and honey and Saab 9-3s galore.
On the contrary, I am about to go bankrupt because I took a position in New Jersey for even less pay than my first job hoping to jump-start my .NET career and get into the higher paying arena. I paid at least $300 a month in gas to get to work. And, the employers today are constantly figuring out new ways to cut into programmer wages, third-party companies being the first idea and then outsourcing to India and now China (since they signed an agreement to more actively reduce software piracy) another, and would you believe it, having employees to share in paying business related expenses. Yes, it really happened ... to me.
My first job in software was "fun". Because I was doing something new and it felt like very few people had the kind of talent to do the work. Now, I know better! Anybody with a pulse can do programming. So, as far as economic theory goes, supply is far outpacing demand.
I obtained my MCSD on .NET because in my mind, it would mean that I had finally reached the "high ground" above the flood in the programming world. Not so fast my .NET friend. I really did learn how to do this stuff. And, I'm a very diligent worker. But, I can read the writing on the wall, especially since it is in bold face, colored red, in italics and sized 500 point, you should have become a doctor. The medical field is booming. The baby boomers are the new gold, and medical school is your shovel.
All I ever wanted was a Saab 9-3, a two car garage and big backyard to have fun. What happened?
Shucks!
classified public, MCSD.NET, MCAD.NET . CompTIA A+
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DIV><FONT face="Microsoft Sans Serif" size=2>I can pick up development
languages on my own. Learning is not at all the problem.</FONT></DIV
DIV><FONT face="Microsoft Sans Serif" size=2></FONT> </DIV
DIV><FONT face="Microsoft Sans Serif" size=2>The problem is obtaining and
keeping a long term position where I can gain experience and get "ahead" of the
learning curve.</FONT></DIV
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DIV><FONT face="Microsoft Sans Serif" size=2>The true test of any
training, including Setfocus.com, is how long the trainee has
continuous employment in a premium paying type of job. Could you guarantee
a year? How about two years or three. It would be a holy grail and a
virtual promised land, milk and honey and Saab 9-3s galore.</FONT></DIV
DIV><FONT face="Microsoft Sans Serif" size=2></FONT> </DIV
DIV><FONT face="Microsoft Sans Serif" size=2>On the contrary, I am about to go
bankrupt because I took a position in New Jersey for even less pay than my first
job hoping to jump-start my .NET career and get into the higher paying
arena. I paid at least $300 a month in gas to get to work. And,
the employers today are constantly figuring out new ways to cut into programmer
wages, third-party companies being the first idea and then outsourcing to India
and now China (since they signed an agreement to more actively reduce software
piracy) another, and would you believe it, having employees to share in paying
business related expenses. Yes, it really happened ... to
me.</FONT></DIV
DIV><FONT face="Microsoft Sans Serif" size=2></FONT> </DIV
DIV><FONT face="Microsoft Sans Serif" size=2>My first job in software was
"fun". Because I was doing something new and it felt like very few people
had the kind of talent to do the work. Now, I know better! Anybody
with a pulse can do programming. So, as far as economic theory
goes, supply is far outpacing demand.</FONT></DIV
DIV><FONT face="Microsoft Sans Serif" size=2></FONT> </DIV
DIV><FONT face="Microsoft Sans Serif" size=2>I obtained my MCSD on .NET because
in my mind, it would mean that I had finally reached the "high ground" above the
flood in the programming world. Not so fast my .NET friend. I
really did learn how to do this stuff. And, I'm a very diligent
worker. But, I can read the writing on the wall, especially since it is in
bold face, colored red, in italics and sized 500 point, you should have
become a doctor. The medical field is booming. The baby boomers are
the new gold, and medical school is your shovel.</FONT></DIV
DIV><FONT face="Microsoft Sans Serif" size=2></FONT> </DIV
DIV><FONT face="Microsoft Sans Serif" size=2>All I ever wanted was a Saab 9-3,
a two car garage and big backyard to have fun. What happened?</FONT></DIV
DIV><FONT face="Microsoft Sans Serif" size=2></FONT> </DIV
DIV><FONT face="Microsoft Sans Serif" size=2>Shucks!</FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV
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face="Microsoft Sans Serif" size=1>·</FONT><FONT face="Microsoft Sans Serif"
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A+</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></I></EM></P></DIV></BODY></HTML
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classified public Guest
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:48 am Post subject: Re: In response to Setfocus.com; The MCSD delusion |
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Attention SKULL AND BONES and wannabes worldwide...
Please walk out in traffic George Bush, jealous of Bill Clinton because you can't get a blow job, corporate welfare bumming, oil guzzling, outsourcing, export your products, saving fetuses but declaring war every five minutes, and fight terrorist Islam !!!
I got a car that I dream the "American Dream" in, but I definitely don't have a dream car.
Importing foreign workers ... I never thought of that. Brilliant. And, chalk one up for you and all the rich people everywhere.
Still, it doesn't hurt the economy as much as outsourcing, at least the "imported" worker's wealth is earned inside the country and likely to help the economy through domestic spending.
That is all I'm trying to point out my .NET friend.
Besides all that, I'm starting to hate your beloved Information Technology labor market. I hate head hunters. I hate not having access to group health insurance.
Hey, George Bush ... When Are You Going To Stop The Bull ***?
| Quote: | All I ever wanted was a Saab 9-3, a two car garage and big backyard to have fun.
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Is that all?
Please don't tell me that you got your dream car and house right after
getting your first .Net job.
And what makes you think the doctors labor market is any different from
the developers labor market? Sure the 'work' cannot be sent overseas
but do you think that HMOs, hospitals and clinics cannot import foreign
doctors to address the growing heathcare demand?
So think before you rush off to get your next 'shovel' or you'll be
crying at your local medical newsgroup in a few years time about
overseas doctors, low pay and high debt. |
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