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 Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 8:37 am Post subject: xp oem media question |
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Can I use a generic oem xp home cd to reinstall xp home on an hp
computer using the coa that is on the computer. Do I need to keep a
version of Xp home pro and media center for dell hp compaq, gateway and
E Machines. Why do oems not ship the cd's with their pc's? As long as
its the same version I can use the customers cd key and it should work.
Sometimes it is just more cost efficent to backup the customers data
and reload xp. When a pc gets loaded down with viruses and spyware it
takes less time to backup the data sometimes and reinstall windows then
if you try to fix all thoes problems. |
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Barry Watzman
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| Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:01 pm Post subject: Re: xp oem media question |
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Re: "Can I use a generic oem xp home cd to reinstall xp home on an hp
computer using the coa that is on the computer."
I'm not sure, try it and let us know (my guess is that it will work).
Dell offers Windows CDs for $10 extra at the time of ordering the
computer. Toshiba still ships a recovery CD (actually it's a DVD), but
it's not a generic Windows media, it's a complete reinstallation
(actually a hard drive image that is restored to the hard drive).
However, they have an "I386" folder on the hard drive that can be burned
to a CD to do a more generic installation.
mdiaczyk@yahoo.com wrote:
| Quote: | Can I use a generic oem xp home cd to reinstall xp home on an hp
computer using the coa that is on the computer. Do I need to keep a
version of Xp home pro and media center for dell hp compaq, gateway and
E Machines. Why do oems not ship the cd's with their pc's? As long as
its the same version I can use the customers cd key and it should work.
Sometimes it is just more cost efficent to backup the customers data
and reload xp. When a pc gets loaded down with viruses and spyware it
takes less time to backup the data sometimes and reinstall windows then
if you try to fix all thoes problems.
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PM
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| Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:17 pm Post subject: Re: xp oem media question |
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mdiaczyk@yahoo.com wrote:
| Quote: | Can I use a generic oem xp home cd to reinstall xp home on an hp
computer using the coa that is on the computer. Do I need to keep a
version of Xp home pro and media center for dell hp compaq, gateway and
E Machines. Why do oems not ship the cd's with their pc's? As long as
its the same version I can use the customers cd key and it should work.
Sometimes it is just more cost efficent to backup the customers data
and reload xp. When a pc gets loaded down with viruses and spyware it
takes less time to backup the data sometimes and reinstall windows then
if you try to fix all thoes problems.
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This should work (as long as it's an OEM CD), but you might have to
phone in the product key to Microsoft. I think they changed something
about OEM activation within the last year that forces you to call in. |
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Barry Watzman
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| Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:17 am Post subject: Re: xp oem media question |
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That's right, as of last February, large OEM product keys no longer
activate over the internet, EVER. People were going to schools,
libraries, internet cafes, and copying the product keys off of the
"certificate of authenticity" stickers. However, as the systems sold by
large OEMs come from the factory, they are often "pre-activated", so
that reactivation is only supposed to be required if you reinstall or
perform massive hardware changes.
PM wrote:
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This should work (as long as it's an OEM CD), but you might have to
phone in the product key to Microsoft. I think they changed something
about OEM activation within the last year that forces you to call in. |
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Patty
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| Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 4:33 am Post subject: Re: xp oem media question |
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On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 22:17:07 GMT, Barry Watzman wrote:
| Quote: | That's right, as of last February, large OEM product keys no longer
activate over the internet, EVER. People were going to schools,
libraries, internet cafes, and copying the product keys off of the
"certificate of authenticity" stickers. However, as the systems sold by
large OEMs come from the factory, they are often "pre-activated", so
that reactivation is only supposed to be required if you reinstall or
perform massive hardware changes.
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I have also seen vendors selling "Dell OEM" copies of WindowsXP at highly
discounted prices. If you buy that and your system is not a Dell, I don't
believe Microsoft will activate it.
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Barry Watzman
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| Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 7:03 am Post subject: Re: xp oem media question |
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Actually, they will activate, at least in the vast majority of cases (if
not all).
Such a copy is probably not legal, but they will [generally, at least]
activate [and, if you think about it, were it not to activate, the
market for those would dry up rather quickly].
Patty wrote:
| Quote: | On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 22:17:07 GMT, Barry Watzman wrote:
That's right, as of last February, large OEM product keys no longer
activate over the internet, EVER. People were going to schools,
libraries, internet cafes, and copying the product keys off of the
"certificate of authenticity" stickers. However, as the systems sold by
large OEMs come from the factory, they are often "pre-activated", so
that reactivation is only supposed to be required if you reinstall or
perform massive hardware changes.
I have also seen vendors selling "Dell OEM" copies of WindowsXP at highly
discounted prices. If you buy that and your system is not a Dell, I don't
believe Microsoft will activate it.
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JohnO
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| Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 6:33 pm Post subject: Re: xp oem media question |
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Patty wrote:
| Quote: | On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 22:17:07 GMT, Barry Watzman wrote:
That's right, as of last February, large OEM product keys no longer
activate over the internet, EVER. People were going to schools,
libraries, internet cafes, and copying the product keys off of the
"certificate of authenticity" stickers. However, as the systems sold by
large OEMs come from the factory, they are often "pre-activated", so
that reactivation is only supposed to be required if you reinstall or
perform massive hardware changes.
I have also seen vendors selling "Dell OEM" copies of WindowsXP at highly
discounted prices. If you buy that and your system is not a Dell, I don't
believe Microsoft will activate it.
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There was a time when Dell OEM Windows CDs were BIOS-locked. That is,
it won't install unless it finds the right code in the Dell BIOS. I
assume that is no longer the case.
-John O |
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PM
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| Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:06 am Post subject: Re: xp oem media question |
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JohnO wrote:
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There was a time when Dell OEM Windows CDs were BIOS-locked. That is,
it won't install unless it finds the right code in the Dell BIOS. I
assume that is no longer the case.
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HP still does this (as far as I know). We have all HP machines at work
and I have a XP Pro CD that will only work on HP-branded SLP machines
(which is pretty much every HP machine I've ever tried it on). A
description of SLP can be found here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_Locked_Preinstallation |
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Barry Watzman
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| Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:37 am Post subject: Re: xp oem media question |
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I've never seen that, and I service laptops (although mostly Toshiba;
relatively few Dells, but some). Microsoft does offer OEMs the option
to "BIOS lock" their PCs (laptops and desktops), in lieu of product
activation. But most OEMs don't seem to take that option. Because of
the "no online activation" policy that has been adopted, the most common
thing today seems to be "pre-activated" systems that don't actually
require activation (and two consequences of this, all of the hard drives
are the same and have the same product key, and this key (in the running
system) is different from the key on the sticker on the case, which is
only used for a reinstallation).
JohnO wrote:
| Quote: | Patty wrote:
On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 22:17:07 GMT, Barry Watzman wrote:
That's right, as of last February, large OEM product keys no longer
activate over the internet, EVER. People were going to schools,
libraries, internet cafes, and copying the product keys off of the
"certificate of authenticity" stickers. However, as the systems sold by
large OEMs come from the factory, they are often "pre-activated", so
that reactivation is only supposed to be required if you reinstall or
perform massive hardware changes.
I have also seen vendors selling "Dell OEM" copies of WindowsXP at highly
discounted prices. If you buy that and your system is not a Dell, I don't
believe Microsoft will activate it.
There was a time when Dell OEM Windows CDs were BIOS-locked. That is,
it won't install unless it finds the right code in the Dell BIOS. I
assume that is no longer the case.
-John O
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