MCPD: Enterprise Application Developer

Bob · Guest

I am currently an MCSD .NET and am confused with the upgrade path to MCPD
Enterprise Developer. It looks like their are 4 different upgrade tests that
can bve taken in many combinations. Can anyone clarify?
Thanks,

EggHead · Guest

Sorry, can't help you.

Figure it out is part of the new Microsoft cert test schema. In fact, after
that, you need to be sucessfully explaining it to your boss as well :)

Anyway,

2 exams (553,554) to MCPD (ent)
1 exam (552) to MCPD (Windows)
1 exam (551) to MCPD (Web)

Unlike MCAD and MCSD, MCPD (win, web) is not consist in MCPD(win, web).

cheers,
Egghead
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EggHead · Guest

ya, all you need are 553 and 554.

Oh, I mean "MCPD (win, web) is not consist in MCPD(ent)".

cheers,
Egghead
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Bob · Guest

It looked to me like if you took 551 and\or 552 you needed to take additional
exams. If I understand you then 553 and 554 would do the trick for MCPD Ent.

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Death from Above · Guest

All you need to take are exams 70-553 and 70-554 to obtain the MCPD: EAD
certification. You don't need to take 70-551 and 70-552 as those will only
earn you the lower tier certifications (MCPD: Win and Web). The MCAD has
been replaced by the MCPD: Win and MCPD: Web while the MCSD.NET has been
replaced by the MCPD: EAD.

Death from Above
MCPD: EAD, MCSD.NET, MCDBA

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Chris Mullins · Guest

If you pass 70-553 and 70-554 and you'll be an MCPD:Enterprise.

That's how I upgraded my MCSD.NET to MCPD:Enterprise.

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Egghead · Guest

I will not said MCPD (win and web) are lower tier cert.
Egghead
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Chris Mullins · Guest

It's tough to tell on that one.

The way Microsoft has structured it is that MCPD:Enterprise, Win, Web are
all equal. They are all "the higest level" of certification available.

Frankely though, this doesn't make much sense to me. I expect the Enterprise
one to be superior to the Win & Web certifications for a variety of reasons
that (to me) seem self-evident. The fact that it's not stuctured this way
continues to baffel me.

I keep debating taking 2 more exams and getting the MCPD: Win/Web certs just
for the fun of it. I'm pretty sure I could take both exams cold and pass
them both without any trouble, so it's just a question of paying for the
tests and finding the time....

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Bob · Guest

How long are 553 and 554, are they significantly longer than the normal
non-upgrade tests? What format? Are they a similar format that the .Net MCSD
tests where?

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EggHead · Guest

You make a very good point on the exams #.
However, you need to prove that 549 covers 547 and 548.
We sort of know it does, but it is hard to explain it to the boss and they
use the same book :)

Oleg Sych · Guest

If you look at the skills measured by exams 70-547 (PRO: Web), 70-548 (PRO:
Win) and 70-549 (PRO: Ent) both 70-547 and 70-548 are actually supersets of
70-549. Although, the only difference is the "Designing and Developing a User
Interface" category. 70-549 does not measure this skill category at all. From
this prospective, MCPD Win and MCPD Web are "deeper" then MCPD Ent in their
specialization areas.

However, "Designing and Developing a User Interface" category is only about
10% of the skills measured by 70-547 and 70-548 exams. I don't understand why
the new certification has three separate exams for this instead of just one
(like the 70-300 for .NET 1.1 solution architecture).

Personally, I find the new certification structure confusing and
frustrating. One one hand, I don't think hiring managers will understand the
distinction between the different MCPD certifications. On the other hand,
developers who are upgrading MCSD, will not think it is fair having to take
two exams (70-553 and 70-554) just to get a single MCPD credential whereas
MCADs can upgrade to MCPD with just one.

In fact, why should an MCSD take the two recommended exams (70-553 and
70-554) to upgrade to MCPD Ent if he or she could earn both MCPD Win and MCPD
Web by taking exams 70-547 and 70-548? Will the industry reward MCPD Ent
achievers with salaries higher then achievers of MCPD Win or MCPD Web? Will
the hiring managers prefer candidates with MCPD Ent over candidates with MCPD
Web or MCPD Win? I seriously doubt it.

I would say go for either MCPD Web or MCPD Win. If you have extra time, you
can get two MCPD credentials (Web and Win), by taking the same number of
exams as required for single MCPD Ent credential. Yes, you will not take the
70-549 (Distributed Apps) exam, but most of the skills it measures become
obsolete with the release of WCF/Indigo anyway. I.e. MCPD Ent is a waste of
time and money.

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Oleg Sych · Guest

Well, there you go. The new structure of certifications is so confusing that
I made several typos even though I thought I had a good grip on it by now.
See the corrections below...

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Thor · Guest

google says: take MCITP of some sort and you will soon be MCA.
Well, I have a longer road to walk myself.
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