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Rommel
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 Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:40 pm Post subject: 70-536 exam |
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hi, i would like to know if, after completion of this exam, you would qualify
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howard dierking
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| Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:31 pm Post subject: RE: 70-536 exam |
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Hi Rommel,
70-536 is the prerequisite exam for other MCTS credential exams (web, win,
dist apps). However, this exam grants no credential of its own.
thanks,
_howard
Howard Dierking
Product Planner
Developer and Database Certifications
Microsoft Learning
"Rommel" wrote:
| Quote: | hi, i would like to know if, after completion of this exam, you would qualify
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LarryWestMCSD
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| Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:03 pm Post subject: RE: 70-536 exam |
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Howard: If this exam grants no credential of its own, then Microsoft needs
to update its MCP Certification Requirements webpage. That page
(http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcp/requirements.asp) states:
Microsoft Certified Professional (MCP) candidates are required to pass one
current Microsoft certification exam that provides a valid and reliable
measure of technical proficiency and expertise (a current exam is any that
has not been retired).
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Note: Exam 70-058: Networking Essentials is an exception to the one exam
requirement. Passing this exam alone will not certify an individual as an
MCP.
Note the word "current". Exam 70-536 is a current exam and thus should
count towards your MCP, right? This implies that it is also possible to be an
MCSD in Visual Studio 6, and NOT be an MCP, as all MCSD-VS6 exams have
retired.
Can someone actually from Microsoft verify this?
--
Larry J. West, MCSD, MOUS, FLMI, ACS
"howard dierking" wrote:
| Quote: | Hi Rommel,
70-536 is the prerequisite exam for other MCTS credential exams (web, win,
dist apps). However, this exam grants no credential of its own.
thanks,
_howard
Howard Dierking
Product Planner
Developer and Database Certifications
Microsoft Learning
"Rommel" wrote:
hi, i would like to know if, after completion of this exam, you would qualify
as Microsoft Certified Professional (MCP)? |
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howard dierking
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| Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:39 am Post subject: RE: 70-536 exam |
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Hi Larry,
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. We will change the language on
the MCP requirements page to add 70-536 as an exception.
_howard
Howard Dierking
Product Planner
Developer and Database Certifications, Microsoft Learning
http://blogs.msdn.com/howard_dierking
"LarryWestMCSD" wrote:
| Quote: | Howard: If this exam grants no credential of its own, then Microsoft needs
to update its MCP Certification Requirements webpage. That page
(http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcp/requirements.asp) states:
Microsoft Certified Professional (MCP) candidates are required to pass one
current Microsoft certification exam that provides a valid and reliable
measure of technical proficiency and expertise (a current exam is any that
has not been retired).
...
Note: Exam 70-058: Networking Essentials is an exception to the one exam
requirement. Passing this exam alone will not certify an individual as an
MCP.
Note the word "current". Exam 70-536 is a current exam and thus should
count towards your MCP, right? This implies that it is also possible to be an
MCSD in Visual Studio 6, and NOT be an MCP, as all MCSD-VS6 exams have
retired.
Can someone actually from Microsoft verify this?
--
Larry J. West, MCSD, MOUS, FLMI, ACS
"howard dierking" wrote:
Hi Rommel,
70-536 is the prerequisite exam for other MCTS credential exams (web, win,
dist apps). However, this exam grants no credential of its own.
thanks,
_howard
Howard Dierking
Product Planner
Developer and Database Certifications
Microsoft Learning
"Rommel" wrote:
hi, i would like to know if, after completion of this exam, you would qualify
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Kev
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| Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 2:51 am Post subject: RE: 70-536 exam |
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<howarddierking@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
| Quote: | So here's where it gets a little confusing. When you pass 70-536, you
officially get all of the MCP benefits (e.g. - access to the website,
welcome pack, etc...) - but you are not actually awarded MCP status.
Sorry for the confusion. We are currently working on clarifying this
on the website.
_howard
Howard Dierking
Product Planner
Developer and Database Certifications, Microsoft Learning
http://blogs.msdn.com/howard_dierking
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Howard
Yes I got all the benefits, I actually thought I was an MCP at that
time. The funny thing is, the 70-536 exam was the most difficult exam
I've sat so far, the others have seemed easier due to not covering as
many areas.
Seems strange that the largest exam doesn't have any benefits on its
own.
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Kev
MCTS: Windows Developer
MCTS: Distributed Applications Developer |
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Scott Lock
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| Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 11:24 pm Post subject: RE: 70-536 exam |
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I agree with Kev. (Although I am an MCP) I just took this test and thought
that it was pretty tough compared with the VB.Net ASP.Net 1.1 test that I
took 3 years ago. There are a lot of areas covered with this test. Also, I
think that Microsoft needs to make this extremely clear since partners are
working on getting employees certified based on the posted information. So
for example, if I need an additional MCP on staff to earn points towards a
partner level I would like to know that this test will not count towards that
goal. We want our employees to work towards certifications that are
beneficial to their career and to the company.
So Howard, when you are reviewing the content please consider doing
something to help partners understand when things are eligible and when they
are not for MCP.
One other point on this, I had a very hard time finding out if the MCPD even
counted for compentencies that required MCSD credentials. It was not posted
in the partner management site (partners.microsoft.com) but was listed on the
main site (partner.microsoft.com).
Very confusing.
"Kev" wrote:
| Quote: | howarddierking@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
So here's where it gets a little confusing. When you pass 70-536, you
officially get all of the MCP benefits (e.g. - access to the website,
welcome pack, etc...) - but you are not actually awarded MCP status.
Sorry for the confusion. We are currently working on clarifying this
on the website.
_howard
Howard Dierking
Product Planner
Developer and Database Certifications, Microsoft Learning
http://blogs.msdn.com/howard_dierking
Howard
Yes I got all the benefits, I actually thought I was an MCP at that
time. The funny thing is, the 70-536 exam was the most difficult exam
I've sat so far, the others have seemed easier due to not covering as
many areas.
Seems strange that the largest exam doesn't have any benefits on its
own.
--
Kev
MCTS: Windows Developer
MCTS: Distributed Applications Developer
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Chris Mullins
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| Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 2:24 am Post subject: Does MCPD count for MCSD credentials for Certified Partners? |
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"Scott Lock" <ScottLock@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
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One other point on this, I had a very hard time finding out if the MCPD
even
counted for compentencies that required MCSD credentials. It was not
posted
in the partner management site (partners.microsoft.com) but was listed on
the
main site (partner.microsoft.com).
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It's funny that you mention this. I was recently tasked with:
"Get our company up to Certified Partner Status. Gold Partner if possible."
Some of this is easy to understand:
- Get our products tested by MS to have the various "designed for" logos on
them.
- Customer References
- Sell lots of Microsoft Software
The area in which I'm confused is related to the MCP stuff. I can't tell how
many MCP's I need, and how many points are given for specific things. None
of the net new certs (.Net 2.0, Sql2k5, etc) were listed that I could find.
I'm talking here about the general, "you need 50 points for Certified
Partner, and 100 points for Certified Gold Partner" stuff. I'm just trying
to figure out how best to achieve our point totals.
I can't tell if our DBA should go get an older MCDBA, or the newer SQL 2005
track. I can't tell if my MCPD counts towards this or not. I can't tell if I
get bonus points for being both MCSD, MCPD:Enterprise. I can't tell if I
should go get the MCPD:Win / Web certs for more points. Hell, I can't tell
if our DBA should punt on the SQL cert all together and get his MCAD / MCSD
/ MCTS / MCPD.
I general I'm hoping this gets cleared up soon. I understand we're still in
the transistion period between Certs, and MS has alot of stuff to update,
but it's coming up quick on a year and this needs to get cleaned up.
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Chris Mullins, MCSD.NET, MCPD:Enterprise
http://www.coversant.net/blogs/cmullins |
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Montreal MCT
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| Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:46 pm Post subject: Re: Does MCPD count for MCSD credentials for Certified Partn |
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I am treading into a dev group which for me is strange territory. However I
am somewhat familiar with the Partner Program, having now helped two
companies go Gold in the last year.
1. You need 120 points to be a Gold Certified Partner, not 100.
2. Unfortunately on the MCP points individuals now max out at three points
each, ergo you can have every cert in the book and you get three points
only.
3. You must have two MCPs (MCTS qualifies too) to become a Certified
Partner. For most of the specializations you may need multiple MCPs with
senior certs (Advanced Network Infrastructure, for example, requires two
MCSEs.)
Good luck!
M
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Montreal MCT
MCT, MCSA, MCDST, MCP
President, Montreal IT Professionals Community (www.mitpro.ca)
Microsoft MVP: Windows Server - Customer Experience
Microsoft Small Business Specialist
Visit my blog at:
http://dnn.mitpro.ca/mitpro/Blogs/tabid/59/BlogID/2/Default.aspx
"Chris Mullins" <cmullins@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | "Scott Lock" <ScottLock@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
One other point on this, I had a very hard time finding out if the MCPD
even
counted for compentencies that required MCSD credentials. It was not
posted
in the partner management site (partners.microsoft.com) but was listed on
the
main site (partner.microsoft.com).
It's funny that you mention this. I was recently tasked with:
"Get our company up to Certified Partner Status. Gold Partner if
possible."
Some of this is easy to understand:
- Get our products tested by MS to have the various "designed for" logos
on them.
- Customer References
- Sell lots of Microsoft Software
The area in which I'm confused is related to the MCP stuff. I can't tell
how many MCP's I need, and how many points are given for specific things.
None of the net new certs (.Net 2.0, Sql2k5, etc) were listed that I could
find. I'm talking here about the general, "you need 50 points for
Certified Partner, and 100 points for Certified Gold Partner" stuff. I'm
just trying to figure out how best to achieve our point totals.
I can't tell if our DBA should go get an older MCDBA, or the newer SQL
2005 track. I can't tell if my MCPD counts towards this or not. I can't
tell if I get bonus points for being both MCSD, MCPD:Enterprise. I can't
tell if I should go get the MCPD:Win / Web certs for more points. Hell, I
can't tell if our DBA should punt on the SQL cert all together and get his
MCAD / MCSD / MCTS / MCPD.
I general I'm hoping this gets cleared up soon. I understand we're still
in the transistion period between Certs, and MS has alot of stuff to
update, but it's coming up quick on a year and this needs to get cleaned
up.
--
Chris Mullins, MCSD.NET, MCPD:Enterprise
http://www.coversant.net/blogs/cmullins
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