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Barry Watzman
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 Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 9:11 pm Post subject: Disk Drive Problem ... Help needed |
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I bought a used 2.5" IDE hard drive on E-Bay, Toshiba MK3021GAS, 30GB.
The drive is not recognized ... AT ALL ... in ANY laptop that I've tried
to use it in (4 different models, all are Toshiba laptops, however).
It's not even seen as being present, so I can't use FDISK or any utilities.
BUT ... when I connect the drive to my desktop computer using a USB to
IDE adapter cable, it is seen and functions normally. It does work, I
can actually use it to store data.
I've tried everything I can think of ... reformatting it (both NTFS and
FAT), making it active, making it inactive, deleting all partitions.
The results are as I described above ... seems PERFECT on the desktop,
not even seen as existing on the laptop (which was the intended use).
This does not appear to be a master-slave issue, I have checked the
jumpers and they are correct (no jumpers at all for master), I've also
tried cable select, no change.
I don't have a way of "zapping" the drive (writing zeros to the entire
drive) over the USB cable, and nothing works on the laptop. I can't
easily do anything using the desktop (e.g. it would be a LOT of trouble
to connect the drive to an IDE port of the desktop, I'd have to open the
desktop, disconnect everything, etc. ... I'm trying to avoid that).
Does anyone have any ideas as to what is going on or how I can resolve
this? The drive seems good, I can actually use it (on the desktop with
the USB adapter), but I bought it for the laptop.
Thanks |
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John T Maguire
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| Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:55 am Post subject: Re: Disk Drive Problem ... Help needed |
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On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 12:11:53 -0400, Barry Watzman
<WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote:
Barry, try it with a jumper on D-B, it's the only thing I
can think of -
| Quote: | I bought a used 2.5" IDE hard drive on E-Bay, Toshiba MK3021GAS, 30GB.
The drive is not recognized ... AT ALL ... in ANY laptop that I've tried
to use it in (4 different models, all are Toshiba laptops, however).
It's not even seen as being present, so I can't use FDISK or any utilities.
BUT ... when I connect the drive to my desktop computer using a USB to
IDE adapter cable, it is seen and functions normally. It does work, I
can actually use it to store data.
I've tried everything I can think of ... reformatting it (both NTFS and
FAT), making it active, making it inactive, deleting all partitions.
The results are as I described above ... seems PERFECT on the desktop,
not even seen as existing on the laptop (which was the intended use).
This does not appear to be a master-slave issue, I have checked the
jumpers and they are correct (no jumpers at all for master), I've also
tried cable select, no change.
I don't have a way of "zapping" the drive (writing zeros to the entire
drive) over the USB cable, and nothing works on the laptop. I can't
easily do anything using the desktop (e.g. it would be a LOT of trouble
to connect the drive to an IDE port of the desktop, I'd have to open the
desktop, disconnect everything, etc. ... I'm trying to avoid that).
Does anyone have any ideas as to what is going on or how I can resolve
this? The drive seems good, I can actually use it (on the desktop with
the USB adapter), but I bought it for the laptop.
Thanks
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John T Maguire, Kennebunkport
Mutley's Photo Diary; www.mousam-river.com/MUTLEYS/MUTLEY.HTM
The Maine Webcams Network; www.maine-webcams.net
Maine Photography; http://www.coastal-visions.com/ |
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smackedass
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| Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:44 am Post subject: Re: Disk Drive Problem ... Help needed |
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Is it not visible in the BIOS either?
sa |
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Barry Watzman
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| Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:03 pm Post subject: Re: Disk Drive Problem ... Help needed |
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Tried that. No go. And it was not visible in BIOS, so no utilities
would detect it.
Tried everything and I'm sure that the hard drive had an obscure defect
that made it inop on SOME systems. I put the drive on a desktop using
an IDE adapter and ZAP gave a "sector not found error". Then, sadly, I
incorrectly plugged in the IDE desktop to laptop adapter (off by one
pin) and blew up the drive. So it's all moot now.
John T Maguire wrote:
| Quote: | On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 12:11:53 -0400, Barry Watzman
WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote:
Barry, try it with a jumper on D-B, it's the only thing I
can think of -
I bought a used 2.5" IDE hard drive on E-Bay, Toshiba MK3021GAS, 30GB.
The drive is not recognized ... AT ALL ... in ANY laptop that I've tried
to use it in (4 different models, all are Toshiba laptops, however).
It's not even seen as being present, so I can't use FDISK or any utilities.
BUT ... when I connect the drive to my desktop computer using a USB to
IDE adapter cable, it is seen and functions normally. It does work, I
can actually use it to store data.
I've tried everything I can think of ... reformatting it (both NTFS and
FAT), making it active, making it inactive, deleting all partitions.
The results are as I described above ... seems PERFECT on the desktop,
not even seen as existing on the laptop (which was the intended use).
This does not appear to be a master-slave issue, I have checked the
jumpers and they are correct (no jumpers at all for master), I've also
tried cable select, no change.
I don't have a way of "zapping" the drive (writing zeros to the entire
drive) over the USB cable, and nothing works on the laptop. I can't
easily do anything using the desktop (e.g. it would be a LOT of trouble
to connect the drive to an IDE port of the desktop, I'd have to open the
desktop, disconnect everything, etc. ... I'm trying to avoid that).
Does anyone have any ideas as to what is going on or how I can resolve
this? The drive seems good, I can actually use it (on the desktop with
the USB adapter), but I bought it for the laptop.
Thanks
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Gerard Bok
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| Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:13 pm Post subject: Re: Disk Drive Problem ... Help needed |
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On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 12:11:53 -0400, Barry Watzman
<WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I bought a used 2.5" IDE hard drive on E-Bay, Toshiba MK3021GAS, 30GB.
The drive is not recognized ... AT ALL ... in ANY laptop that I've tried
to use it in (4 different models, all are Toshiba laptops, however).
It's not even seen as being present, so I can't use FDISK or any utilities.
Does anyone have any ideas as to what is going on
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Could this be a security issue ?
A laptop bios that uses an IDE password on the drive and refuses
to mount a drive that doesn't respond to the password ?
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Gerard Bok |
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John O
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| Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:14 pm Post subject: Re: Disk Drive Problem ... Help needed |
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"Barry Watzman" <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
news:47dd36a5$0$30720$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
| Quote: | Tried that. No go. And it was not visible in BIOS, so no utilities would
detect it.
Tried everything and I'm sure that the hard drive had an obscure defect
that made it inop on SOME systems. I put the drive on a desktop using an
IDE adapter and ZAP gave a "sector not found error". Then, sadly, I
incorrectly plugged in the IDE desktop to laptop adapter (off by one pin)
and blew up the drive. So it's all moot now.
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Heh, I did that once and smoked the adapter, too. Literally.
-John O |
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John T Maguire
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| Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:02 pm Post subject: Re: Disk Drive Problem ... Help needed |
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On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 11:03:02 -0400, Barry Watzman
<WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote:
I figured it was either the cable select or that the drive
had spin up/power problems. My opinion is that you are
better off with it dead, I don't think you could have
trusted it.
John
| Quote: | Tried that. No go. And it was not visible in BIOS, so no utilities
would detect it.
Tried everything and I'm sure that the hard drive had an obscure defect
that made it inop on SOME systems. I put the drive on a desktop using
an IDE adapter and ZAP gave a "sector not found error". Then, sadly, I
incorrectly plugged in the IDE desktop to laptop adapter (off by one
pin) and blew up the drive. So it's all moot now.
John T Maguire wrote:
On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 12:11:53 -0400, Barry Watzman
WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote:
Barry, try it with a jumper on D-B, it's the only thing I
can think of -
I bought a used 2.5" IDE hard drive on E-Bay, Toshiba MK3021GAS, 30GB.
The drive is not recognized ... AT ALL ... in ANY laptop that I've tried
to use it in (4 different models, all are Toshiba laptops, however).
It's not even seen as being present, so I can't use FDISK or any utilities.
BUT ... when I connect the drive to my desktop computer using a USB to
IDE adapter cable, it is seen and functions normally. It does work, I
can actually use it to store data.
I've tried everything I can think of ... reformatting it (both NTFS and
FAT), making it active, making it inactive, deleting all partitions.
The results are as I described above ... seems PERFECT on the desktop,
not even seen as existing on the laptop (which was the intended use).
This does not appear to be a master-slave issue, I have checked the
jumpers and they are correct (no jumpers at all for master), I've also
tried cable select, no change.
I don't have a way of "zapping" the drive (writing zeros to the entire
drive) over the USB cable, and nothing works on the laptop. I can't
easily do anything using the desktop (e.g. it would be a LOT of trouble
to connect the drive to an IDE port of the desktop, I'd have to open the
desktop, disconnect everything, etc. ... I'm trying to avoid that).
Does anyone have any ideas as to what is going on or how I can resolve
this? The drive seems good, I can actually use it (on the desktop with
the USB adapter), but I bought it for the laptop.
Thanks
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John T Maguire, Kennebunkport
Mutley's Photo Diary; www.mousam-river.com/MUTLEYS/MUTLEY.HTM
The Maine Webcams Network; www.maine-webcams.net
Maine Photography; http://www.coastal-visions.com/ |
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smackedass
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| Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:45 pm Post subject: Re: Disk Drive Problem ... Help needed |
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I figured it was either the cable select or that the drive
had spin up/power problems. My opinion is that you are
better off with it dead, I don't think you could have
trusted it.
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Here here. RIP.
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Barry Watzman
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| Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:28 am Post subject: Re: Disk Drive Problem ... Help needed |
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In this case, I am sure that it was neither. I suspect, from some error
messages I got when using a low level diagnostic, that there was a bad
sector (got a sector not found error) in Cylinder zero. The drive
worked with total reliability on some systems, but wasn't even seen at
all on some other systems.
smackedass wrote:
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I figured it was either the cable select or that the drive
had spin up/power problems. My opinion is that you are
better off with it dead, I don't think you could have
trusted it.
Here here. RIP.
sa
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